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tk13 10-30-2010 11:25 AM

On the flipside, the Patriots have kept Kevin Faulk for a decade and a half now. So it's not like they haven't been loyal to guys.

But when we go to the 18 game schedule, you're going to see more of this and the RB position is going to become even more watered down. Even for guys like Charles. Everybody's going to be playing 2 or 3 different backs to keep guys from having 450-500 carries a year, I would think.

salame 10-30-2010 11:52 AM

I would rather spend the money on Brandon Flowers

DaneMcCloud 10-30-2010 12:12 PM

Charles won't be eligible for Free Agency until after the 2014 season, so I don't even understand why this is even being discussed.

kcfanXIII 10-30-2010 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl (Post 7129112)
3 things:

1. Pioli didn't draft Charles - carl did.

2. McCluster is the exact same type of tailback with a nearly identical skillset.

3. Your owner is at the bottom in spending and has been for several years.

Put those things together and it's quite obvious.

1. doesn't mean pioli doesn't recognize talent.

2. DMC is not the exact same tailback... charles is closer to a traditional RB, and has roughly 40 pounds on DMC.

3. that is because we cleaned most of the veteran dead weight off the roster, replacing with younger (and yes cheaper) talent.

the only thing that's obvious is the rest of the afc west is afraid of JC and want him out of the division...

kcfanXIII 10-30-2010 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 7129189)
Charles won't be eligible for Free Agency until after the 2014 season, so I don't even understand why this is even being discussed.

because knowmo is a dumbass, who is hoping and praying the chiefs let charles walk so he doesn't have to worry about 250+ days anymore. can't wait for the chiefs to get into the divisional play to shut these chokeland and dungver fans up. at least charger fans are smart enough to realize their team is done.

SenselessChiefsFan 10-30-2010 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 7128990)
Cutler helps opponents more than he helps his own team and he whined his way out of town, Scheffler can't/won't block, and Marshall had to go. The defense has had its best players on the shelf for a fair portion of the season.

Woodson should have tried for some actual analysis.

Cutler can be coached up. He looked good under Shanahan, didn't he? Right now, he is with the worst possible OC for him. Martz has very little respect for the football.

Scheffler is a good receiving TE.... you need all types on a team. Didn't have to start, but could have contributed.

Marshall had to go? He wouldn't have had to go if Shanny was still there.

Every team has injuries. Letting go of a guy who completely turned around the defense last year was stupid.... but not unexpected.

Woodson's point still stands.... McD is on the hot seat.

Bozo1970 10-30-2010 12:30 PM

KnowShit was an accompliance to Phobia during the great rep heist. WOW CP has lost its burst LMAO

dallaschiefsfan 10-30-2010 01:10 PM

This is simple...if he doesn't sign for a workable contract, place the franchise tag on him and trade him (if any new CBA has such tags). At that point, you can at least get something for him instead of just letting him walk.

Quesadilla Joe 10-30-2010 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dallaschiefsfan (Post 7129256)
This is simple...if he doesn't sign for a workable contract, place the franchise tag on him and trade him (if any new CBA has such tags). At that point, you can at least get something for him instead of just letting him walk.

He's a RFA after this season so if another team makes him an offer the Chiefs have a chance to match it. If the Chiefs don't you will get a 3rd round pick.

DaneMcCloud 10-30-2010 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 7129316)
He's a RFA after this season so if another team makes him an offer the Chiefs have a chance to match it. If the Chiefs don't you will get a 3rd round pick.

Bullshit.

Seriously, Dude, you know ANYTHING about the NFL?

The CBA expired last year. Players aren't eligible for Restricted Free Agency until they've had 5 YEARS service in the league and 6 YEARS for Unrestricted Free Agency.

Charles won't be an RFA until AFTER the 2013 season.

PLUS, the Chiefs could easily (and most likely WILL) put a first round tender on Charles.

DBOSHO 10-30-2010 02:01 PM

I would be extremely dissapointed if we let charles go.

Extremely.

Quesadilla Joe 10-30-2010 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 7129374)
Bullshit.

Seriously, Dude, you know ANYTHING about the NFL?

The CBA expired last year. Players aren't eligible for Restricted Free Agency until they've had 5 YEARS service in the league and 6 YEARS for Unrestricted Free Agency.

Charles won't be an RFA until AFTER the 2013 season.

PLUS, the Chiefs could easily (and most likely WILL) put a first round tender on Charles.

Uhh dude you are wrong. A player is available for RFA after three seasons seasons in the league.

wazu 10-30-2010 03:00 PM

Pioli, you damned well better have our team's payroll at least somewhere near the salary cap before you even think of letting Charles go. Our team needs to collect more talent, not say goodbye to what it already has.

LoneWolf 10-30-2010 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 7129670)
Uhh dude you are wrong. A player is available for RFA after three seasons seasons in the league.

http://www.patriotsdaily.com/2010/01...-cba-rules-be/

If you are going to be stupid about a subject, at least make it a subject that I can't prove your stupidity with a one minute google search.

Chiefs Rool 10-30-2010 03:06 PM

ya, he's good, he's damn good, but we need to learn our lesson on paying high priced RBs. It's not a position of longevity. Plus, running backs are a dime a dozen. I would rather us throw our money at Flowers


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