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BigMeatballDave 11-07-2010 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 7157661)
I voted Cassel. Not because I really think it was his fault, but just because I hate him.
Yep. I want SO bad to like Matt.

Thig Lyfe 11-07-2010 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 7157687)
Cassel made some nice throws today. I can't imagine anyone arguing otherwise. Similarly, I cannot imagine anyone not acknowledging that he had a major hand in the loss, with his duck at the end of the first (when we were in prime position to get at least 3 points) and breakdown in OT and at the end of regulation when he had two impressive overthrows on the three and out prior to the Bowe drop.

He's not good enough, but this isn't anything new.
THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS

He made a few good throws, but a few good throws does not a win make. Especially when all the other throws are big shitty pieces of shit-covered shit.

DeezNutz 11-07-2010 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 7157689)
Moeaki dropping the 3rd and 1 pass.

Haley for not going for it on 4th and 1.

Studebaker for getting called for the hold.

Berry called for a hold that nullifies a TD return.

On five consecutive plays in the red zone, Cassel throws three straight incompletions, takes a sack, and throws an interception.

On the opening kickoff of the second half we blow coverage and allow a TD.

Arenas fumbles the kickoff.

That is less than 1 quarter of clock time. We screwed up winning plays all day long. Team loss.
He appears to have absolutely no philosophy as it relates to fourth down, which is disconcerting.

Reerun_KC 11-07-2010 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 7157687)
Cassel made some nice throws today. I can't imagine anyone arguing otherwise. Similarly, I cannot imagine anyone not acknowledging that he had a major hand in the loss, with his duck at the end of the first (when we were in prime position to get at least 3 points) and breakdown in OT and at the end of regulation when he had two impressive overthrows on the three and out prior to the Bowe drop.

He's not good enough, but this isn't anything new.
And it looked as if bowe was wide freaking open in ot on 3rd down. That ot throw was a panic throw. Dammit Matty light.

jbwm89 11-07-2010 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7157690)
So what would you call it?

Imagine if we go back to last week, and after Cassel's first overtime abortion the Bills hit a bomb and kick a FG.

That would be a choke job.
I usually agree with you on Cassel, but you make it sound like every quarterback leads his team into field goal range every possession of OT.

I blame the playcalling for being so pussy. Cassel probably wouldn't have been able to make the throws, but we will never know.

chasedude 11-07-2010 11:06 PM
I think it's just an all poor effort on the team.

Bowe missed some obvious catches

Cassell overthrew and made stupid decisions.

Special Teams gave up a TD and colquitt with his less than stellar punts.

OLine allowed 2 sacks on Cassell when they only allowed 3 in all previous games.

Defense missed some INT's, blown coverage and outright stupid mistakes.

All aspects of the team had too many penalties.

Picking ONE goat? I cannot do.

chiefzilla1501 11-07-2010 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 7157702)
And it looked as if bowe was wide freaking open in ot on 3rd down. That ot throw was a panic throw. Dammit Matty light.
I don't agree. There's a LB spying Cassel. He drifts to the left because Cassel is looking right.

If Cassel looks toward Bowe, I think that's possibly a pick 6.

Rain Man 11-07-2010 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 7157689)
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Berry called for a hold that nullifies a TD return.

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I think it was a block in the back penalty, and I hope that gif horse can show us a gif of that play because I really don't think that was a block in the back.

jbwm89 11-07-2010 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 7157712)
I think it was a block in the back penalty, and I hope that gif horse can show us a gif of that play because I really don't think that was a block in the back.
I second that

BigMeatballDave 11-07-2010 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 7157687)
Cassel made some nice throws today. I can't imagine anyone arguing otherwise. Similarly, I cannot imagine anyone not acknowledging that he had a major hand in the loss, with his duck at the end of the first (when we were in prime position to get at least 3 points) and breakdown in OT and at the end of regulation when he had two impressive overthrows on the three and out prior to the Bowe drop.

He's not good enough, but this isn't anything new.
Yes. It is so vexing. How the **** does he throw a nice bullet to Bowe for the TD, and then completely shit himself other times?

FloridaMan88 11-07-2010 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by SportsRacer (Post 7157700)
THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS

He made a few good throws, but a few good throws does not a win make. Especially when all the other throws are big shitty pieces of shit-covered shit.
Other than the bad INT in the end-zone at the end of the first half, Cassel played well enough for the Chiefs to win.

This team is supposed to be led by a strong running game and mistake free football. The Chiefs struggled to run the ball all day, and were plagued by mistakes (penalties and horrific special teams play) throughout the game.

Hammock Parties 11-07-2010 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by jbwm89 (Post 7157703)
I usually agree with you on Cassel, but you make it sound like every quarterback leads his team into field goal range every possession of OT.

I blame the playcalling for being so pussy. Cassel probably wouldn't have been able to make the throws, but we will never know.
Not looking for FG range.

But a couple of first downs from that point on the field are huge.

I was excited when we won the coin toss. I thought "hey! maybe Cassel will continue to be clutch and we'll get the hell out of this dungeon with a win."

Two plays later.

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Frazod 11-07-2010 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7157669)
The defense gave up 250 yards in the second half and overtime.
For a grand total of 16 points. And when you throw in the points the gave up in the first half, it's still 16 points.

cdcox 11-07-2010 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 7157689)
Moeaki dropping the 3rd and 1 pass.

Haley for not going for it on 4th and 1.

Studebaker for getting called for the hold.

Berry called for a hold that nullifies a TD return.

On five consecutive plays in the red zone, Cassel throws three straight incompletions, takes a sack, and throws an interception.

On the opening kickoff of the second half we blow coverage and allow a TD.

Arenas fumbles the kickoff.

That is less than 1 quarter of clock time. We screwed up winning plays all day long. Team loss.
That sequence in the 2nd quarter was potentially 21 points. And we got zero. ZERO! That is where we lost the game.

DeezNutz 11-07-2010 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by BCD (Post 7157715)
Yes. It is so vexing. How the **** does he throw a nice bullet to Bowe for the TD, and then completely shit himself other times?
Because he lacks the instincts and field awareness to be a high-quality QB, IMO, and these cannot be learned in the NFL. They're learned in college, where Cassel never played.

As milkman and others have said, when Cassel throws with conviction, the results are generally pretty good. Too often, however, he doesn't play with this level of confidence.


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