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listopencil 08-09-2012 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 8803601)
This whole post seems pretty wrong. I could be wrong, but since the Bills were just making the switch to the 3-4 under Gaily, I doubt they are already switching back. The Broncos use a 4-3, but yes they might use Miller more like Thomas.


The 3-4 isn't a Defense, it's a defensive front alignment, and part of a personnel package. At times Von Miller is the 5th, 4th or even (rarely) 3rd guy on the LOS. He's a Linebacker and he gets lined up wherever the play dictates, then sometimes moves in/out or laterally. Of course that was last year. Our old DC is now the HC for the Raiders.

lostcause 08-09-2012 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 8803664)
So you're saying in their attempt to switch to the 3-4, they literally didn't sign or draft a single player to make the switch? Interesting.

merriman

Sorter 08-09-2012 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 8803782)
The 3-4 isn't a Defense, it's a defensive front alignment, and part of a personnel package.

^^^This

T-post Tom 08-09-2012 08:50 PM

A gap by any other name....

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OctoberFart 08-09-2012 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 8803601)
This whole post seems pretty wrong. I could be wrong, but since the Bills were just making the switch to the 3-4 under Gaily, I doubt they are already switching back. The Broncos use a 4-3, but yes they might use Miller more like Thomas.

Why the f would they get Mario Williams and mark Anderson and not run a 4-3.

lostcause 08-10-2012 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by AutumnWind (Post 8804659)
Why the f would they get Mario Williams and mark Anderson and not run a 4-3.

Mario looked damn good as a 3-4 olb before hurting himself.

Ace Gunner 08-10-2012 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8802730)
DJ and Belchers jobs are completely different.

Notice how Belcher is cheating to one side or the other presnap? That's because he watches enough film and is coached well enough to identify keys presnap that allow him to cheat to either side to gain a step in his responsibility...which is to identify the lead blocker and blow him up allowing DJ to make the tackle.

The fact that's his job and DJ was our leading tackler and Belcher was our second is a testament to how well the two work together.

Good post. Also, Belcher is a "strongside" backer whereas DJ is a "weakside" backer. When the TE motions to the other side, watch DJ & Belcher flip with the offense. The TE is an extra blocker Belcher must handle in the run game as compared to DJ's assignments.

Direckshun 03-05-2013 04:58 PM

I've moved the Chiefs from 1-gap to 2-gap, and removed the Cowboys since they're going to a 4-3.

The Saints are going to a 3-4, right? You gotta assume that's a 1-gap scheme?

Hammock Parties 03-05-2013 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 9468010)
I've moved the Chiefs from 1-gap to 2-gap, and removed the Cowboys since they're going to a 4-3.

The Saints are going to a 3-4, right? You gotta assume that's a 1-gap scheme?

You mean 2-gap to 1-gap.

Sassy Squatch 03-05-2013 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 9468010)
I've moved the Chiefs from 1-gap to 2-gap, and removed the Cowboys since they're going to a 4-3.

The Saints are going to a 3-4, right? You gotta assume that's a 1-gap scheme?

Wait what? Did you get that backwards?

QuikSsurfer 03-05-2013 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9468054)
You mean 2-gap to 1-gap.

Yes

planetdoc 03-05-2013 05:52 PM

why do you think the chiefs are switching to a 1-gap

kcchiefs.com/news/article-2/QA-with-Defensive-Coordinator-Bob-Sutton/b96e3304-0857-4b4e-b4ac-33b5e7a4d8e4

sutton said:
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I think that the transition is going to be kind of similar to one that I went through when I was with the Jets. We were in the exact same defense that they played here the last couple years under Romeo [Crennel], it’s a great system of defense – the true 3-4 – and then when Rex [Ryan] came into the Jets, which has many similarities to this but it has a little bit more multiple and was different schematically how we line up. But a lot of principles to me stayed the same. The approach of how our up-front players attack blockers and that type of thing, I think the system, and again we’re in the early stages of this – I’m not going to get tied to anything – but the way I envision it and in speaking to Coach [Andy] Reid when I came in here, we’re trying to incorporate many of the things we did in New York. Again, it’s got to be tailored a little bit to the personnel here. But I think the transition will be good because it’s 3-4 based but it has a little bit more multiple than what I had done in New York before or the same that Romeo had run here.
profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/04/11/fantasy-defensive-personnel-packages-%E2%80%93-part-1/

Although the chiefs base defense was the 2-gap 3-4, they use alot of other looks. For the 2011 season the chiefs used the 3-4 55% of the time and were in a dime (2-3-6) 32% of the time. The jets were only in the 3-4 37% of the time, and than were in a 3-3-5 and a 1-3-7 over 15% of the time. Essentially they were in their nickel and dime defenses 50% of the time.

The big reason that Poe was brought in was because the chiefs were getting gashed against the run in the dime defense. You need two big bodies for that.

Rex Ryan, Rob Ryan all use the multiple fronts of buddy ryan's 4-6. The defensive line 2-gaps.

So why do you think that Sutton will 1-gap?

Hammock Parties 03-05-2013 05:54 PM

Because only reeruns play 2-gap 3-4 these days.

Ming the Merciless 03-05-2013 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9468054)
You mean 2-gap to 1-gap.

So we are gonna change to a 1 gap?

Sassy Squatch 03-05-2013 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 9468253)
So we are gonna change to a 1 gap?

Ya buddy.


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