Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 7963981)

Jared Allen is an anti-clutch defensive player. He padded his "prime years" with meaningless sacks. Tamba has always shown up when the defense needed something. He and Berry were the only ones showing up last year in the playoff game.

Allen, in the biggest game of his career (the NFC championship game), got his ass mauled and destroyed by a rookie left tackle. The guy never did a ****ing thing worth mentioning during his stint in KC and we still have fans giving him a rim job. It's amusing and pathetic.

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 7964117)

You suck at watching football.

Originally Posted by Buckweath (Post 7964161)

Lol, my opinion of Hali is in fact shared by many many experts.

And Flowers as it has been said is playing just as well as last year. But some idiots like you think because he's allowed a few touchdowns to Calvin freaking Johnson and against the Bills too he has been playing bad... NO.

And by the way FAX you have way too much time on your hands to write like that to insult me.

Originally Posted by FAX (Post 7964164)

Actually, that didn't take much time at all.

Did it one-handed, too.

FAX

Originally Posted by Buckweath (Post 7964161)

Lol, my opinion of Hali is in fact shared by many many experts.

And Flowers as it has been said is playing just as well as last year. But some idiots like you think because he's allowed a few touchdowns to Calvin freaking Johnson and against the Bills too he has been playing bad... NO.

And by the way FAX you have way too much time on your hands to write like that to insult me.

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 7964167)

Flowers may not even be the best CB on the team, let alone the best defensive player. The best defensive player on the Chiefs is currently out for the year with a torn ACL.

Originally Posted by Buckweath (Post 7964173)

You can make an argument for Berry but I disagree that he is the best player. He might have become the best one later on had he played but last year he was certainly not better than Hali, Flowers and maybe Johnson.

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 7964174)

:spock:

Originally Posted by Buckweath (Post 7964185)

Oh seriously Flower is a great player, I don't have time to show you but go around the internet and you'll see fans and experts think very highly of him (many think he's a top 5 CB). It was even said he was just as good as Revis and Asomugha before getting injured last season. And I know he has allowed 4-5 TDs this year.

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 7964172)

Are those the same experts that call Derrick Johnson our rush backer and insist over and over and over again that Brandon Albert should be moved to LG where he's supposedly more comfortable because he played two years there in college?

Also, you didn't really use any stats or evidence to prove your opinion. You just said, "Tamba isn't the best defensive player on this team" and then walked away.

Also, you're still a goddamn idiot.

Originally Posted by FAX (Post 7964137)

I'm just a caveman. I fell on some ice and was later thawed out by some of your scientists. Your world frightens and confuses me. Sometimes the honking horns of your traffic make me want to get out of my BMW and run off into the hills, or wherever. Sometimes when I get a text message on my phone, I wonder: "Did little demons get inside and type it?" I don't know! My primitive mind can't grasp these concepts.

FAX

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 7964172)

Are those the same experts that call Derrick Johnson our rush backer and insist over and over and over again that Brandon Albert should be moved to LG where he's supposedly more comfortable because he played two years there in college?

Also, you didn't really use any stats or evidence to prove your opinion. You just said, "Tamba isn't the best defensive player on this team" and then walked away.

Also, you're still a goddamn idiot.

Originally Posted by Buckweath (Post 7964235)

Look, that's just my opinion. When I watch the Chiefs, I feel like Flowers is doing a better job at what a cornerback is supposed to do than Hali at OLB.

You should know that stats are not the best way to judge a CB and even then I don't have time to look for them.

It's also with my eye test that I considered Jamaal Charles and McFadden better RBs than Arian Foster last year despite the stats. Just more speed, more elusiveness and most of all better vision.



It's mostly my eye test that says that Flowers is better and trust me I'm far from the only one to think so, if you disagree with it fine, most Chiefs fans probably also think Hali is better.