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whoman69 10-03-2011 06:48 PM
For this D-line average is an improvement. I'll take it.

KCrockaholic 10-03-2011 06:51 PM
Yeah Piss was only in our 3rd down package along with a couple others like Cameron Sheffield.

FAX 10-03-2011 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 7965194)
For this D-line average is an improvement. I'll take it.
Mitch said the d-line played well last Sunday. He said they "hammered down" and "held the fort" and "took out the garbage" and "closed the car door on AP's pecker" and stuff like that.

FAX

Mr. Laz 10-03-2011 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 7965093)
Wasn't Lillja near pro-bowl level last year? Should we really give up on him after 4 games this year? Maybe he's just on board with S4L. We need a secret handshake or something.
yes, but don't interrupt another dumbass rant by goatboy. He doesn't like it.

Mr. Laz 10-03-2011 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 7965183)
We all knew Houston would struggle in pass coverage it's cool I still think he's going to be a dominate pass rusher. I don't understand why they aren't letting him go more.
yea, but he's getting owned in the running game too.

Hammock Parties 10-03-2011 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 7965216)
yes, but don't interrupt another dumbass rant by goatboy. He doesn't like it.
It's not a rant. It's fact. Lilja is garbage this year, Waters is playing well in NE.

ThaVirus 10-03-2011 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7964990)
Wow, they got these up fast.

6. Tamba Hali was a freaking BEAST with a +7.4, 7 QB pressures, 2 sacks and 2 hits. AND three stops. That is unheard of.

7. Derrick Johnson and Jovan Belcher continued their excellent play. They combined for nine stops (6 to DJ) and 13 tackles overall.

11. Brandon Flowers did not give up a catch.
All of these make my Johnson semi-hard. Love to see our young stars doing well.

ThaVirus 10-03-2011 07:10 PM
And how about Carr's grade? He did get beat for the two TDs..

Nightfyre 10-03-2011 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 7965263)
And how about Carr's grade? He did get beat for the two TDs..
If you want to call either of them him being beat for TDs... The first pass he had good coverage, but no coverage is good enough for that pass. The second one looked like an incomplete pass to me.

FAX 10-03-2011 07:14 PM
That second TD was a scoop of bullcrap on a bed of cabbagecrap served with a heaping helping of just plain crap.

FAX

LOCOChief 10-03-2011 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 7965144)
He is also 5th in the NFL in sacks despite the fact that he hardly ever rushes, when he does he normally brings down the QB. Tamba never drops into coverage, if Von rushed as many times as Tamba he would be leading the league in sacks.
Yeah I know right?

The reason they don't send him after the QB more?

SAUTO 10-03-2011 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 7965271)
If you want to call either of them him being beat for TDs... The first pass he had good coverage, but no coverage is good enough for that pass. The second one looked like an incomplete pass to me.
Agreed
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ThaVirus 10-03-2011 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 7965271)
If you want to call either of them him being beat for TDs... The first pass he had good coverage, but no coverage is good enough for that pass. The second one looked like an incomplete pass to me.
While I thought his coverage was pretty good on that play, it could have been better. You can see at the point right before Aromashedu (sp?) dove for the ball he created a couple feet of separation from Carr.. And on the other one, TD or not, it counted and he was the man covering on the play.

I'm a Carr fan so I'm not arguing that he's not good. If you told me we'd have Flowers and Carr at the CB spots for the next 5 years I'd be totally fine with that. Yesterday just wasn't Carr's best game.

Hammock Parties 10-03-2011 07:34 PM
+7.4 is a ridiculous grade, I can't overstate that enough.

Last year Shaun Phillips' grade for the SEASON was 4.8.

I wonder what kind of grade PFF would have given DT against the Seahawks during his 7-sack game. Probably +15 or +20.

Hootie 10-03-2011 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7965070)
This Lilja thing needs to be blown up. It's a pretty huge negative against Pioli with Waters gone. The guy is basically a bottom 5 guard through 4 games.
and Waters starts for the Patriots...


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