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FAX 11-22-2011 01:16 AM

Pioli has repeatedly stated that Clark has not bogarted the checkbook. If you can believe him (and I don't know why we should) any austerity is, therefore, on his head.

The bad decisions are mounting up, that's for sure. After a loss like this, I have to keep reminding myself that we really are functioning without our best players, without a quarterback, and without any depth whatsoever. Those are all bad things, but Pioli could have and should have done something about two of those.

And, of course, that's not taking into account the somewhat bizarre draft choices we've made.

In year three of a rebuild, you should have something to show for it. We don't. But, not only that, we have once again become a league joke. I can only wonder if the local fans will finally begin boycotting ArrowPointingDownHead Stadium this year.

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FAX 11-22-2011 01:17 AM

Fisher worked for an owner that makes Clark look like a Black Friday shopper.

He's burned out, though. Really burned out.

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DeezNutz 11-22-2011 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 8132033)
Fisher worked for an owner that makes Clark look like a Black Friday shopper.

He's burned out, though. Really burned out.

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Kind of wondered if you'd have some insight on him. No chance he's back on the sidelines soon?

Hammock Parties 11-22-2011 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 8132027)
There's no question. We'd be tougher, meaner, better prepared, and be consistent playoff contenders.

And then promptly get bounced in the first round.

But, ****, that BBQ smells good.

I don't necessarily disagree.

But post McNair, Fisher had to deal with a lot of meddling from his owner if memory serves.

He might do a lot better if he wasn't saddled with an owner who demanded he start a flava clown QB.

When Fisher had McNair that team won playoff games multiple seasons. When they went into the Vince Young/Kerry Collins merry-go-round, shit went south.

DeezNutz 11-22-2011 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 8132036)
I don't necessarily disagree.

But post McNair, Fisher had to deal with a lot of meddling from his owner if memory serves.

He might do a lot better if he wasn't saddled with an owner who demanded he start a flava clown QB.

When Fisher had McNair that team won playoff games multiple seasons. When they went into the Vince Young/Kerry Collins merry-go-round, shit went south.

As opposed to a meddling GM who saddled the previous coach with a backup/starter (whom he knew "better than anyone")?

Hammock Parties 11-22-2011 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 8132038)
As opposed to a meddling GM who saddled the previous coach with a backup/starter?

Point taken. But we have to hope that Fisher would be smart enough not to come here if he was saddled with Cassel.

FAX 11-22-2011 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 8132034)
Kind of wondered if you'd have some insight on him. No chance he's back on the sidelines soon?

He's enjoying time out of the spotlight and between his hottie's legs.

I don't think he would be interested in another coaching job right now ... particularly if he couldn't make personnel decisions.

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Titty Meat 11-22-2011 01:23 AM

Do people really want Jeff Fisher? Me thinks he's done coaching.

DeezNutz 11-22-2011 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 8132040)
Point taken. But we have to hope that Fisher would be smart enough not to come here if he was saddled with Cassel.

Yeah, just too gun-shy about the level of incompetence shown by Pioli to this point. No confidence.

Perhaps, if he would hire a more seasoned HC, one with a stronger voice that he would respect, the two could sort of balance each other out.

And then the whole scenario sounds a lot like Marty and Carl. LMAO.

Halfcan 11-22-2011 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 8132030)
Complete guess, but based on the fact that the next hire is usually the opposite of what just failed.

:thumb: Actually that is a pretty damm good guess. Fisher was pretty respected among his players.

RealSNR 11-22-2011 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 8131938)
I'll be happy if they replace Haley with Mike Zimmer, if they decide to make a move.

I just realized his son is already linebackers coach with this team. Talk about smooth transition

FAX 11-22-2011 01:32 AM

It's sad to see this thing go so badly at this point.

I don't mind losing on the road to the Pats ... most teams do. It's nothing to be ashamed of. And, to be perfectly honest, we looked pretty damn good for the first 20 minutes or so.

What bothers me is that, as the game unfolds, we don't seem to respond well to what the other team decides to do ... either on offense or defense. No adjustments. No counter-strategy. No chess match.

I know that a lot of times a team is handicapped when it comes to in-game adjustments due to personnel limitations (and we have many this year), but it seems like when the enemy figures out our plan, we're done. And it doesn't seem to matter much who we're playing.

I'm trying really hard not to overreact to this deal, but I have to honestly admit that Haley looked a little lost out there. I feel badly for Palko, too. The little bastard went out there and gave it everything he had and got smushed in return.

The thing that pisses me off is the fact that this is year 3 of this regime and, as of today, we remain the laughing stock of the entire league. A joke. The ugly, little, wimp kid who was born with a wedgie.

As a long-time, loyal fan, that pisses me off. So, I don't really care if they chop off Pioli's head or Haley's dick so long as they figure out how to get this team on top which is what the fans deserve.

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BigMeatballDave 11-22-2011 01:34 AM

I don't really care.

Until we get a good QB in here, it's going to be the same old shit.

This offense reminds me of the '92 team with Dave Krieg

FAX 11-22-2011 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8132051)
I don't really care.

Until we get a good QB in here, it's going to be the same old shit.

This offense reminds me of the '92 team with Dave Krieg

It does.

And '92 reminds you of '86 which reminds you of '79, etc., etc.

I sense a pattern emerging.

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Titty Meat 11-22-2011 01:35 AM

The retread makes sense I can't think of too many guys from the tree who are qualified coaches: Bowles, Ferentz, the current Pats OC?


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