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The Franchise 12-19-2011 10:27 AM
If he gets hired....then he better bring in a capable OC and a young DC to learn from him. And I don't ****ing mean Josh McDaniels either.

htismaqe 12-19-2011 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by ct (Post 8218932)
Very solid points!!

The Haley hire was a mistake, done very late in the game, so to speak. If he really turned out to hate him, but then couldn't fire him cause of our mirage of an AFC West Title season, then yet again he's put himself in a no-win situation, dicatated FOR him. I think at this point, he's gotta be prayin Romeo get this team to perform as well these last 2 weeks to justify hiring him, or an epic fail to justify not. Anything in between, and he may be writing his own farewell legacy.
I think there's at least some validity to the idea that Crennel was brought here in case this type of scenario were to occur. In other words, he was going to be the HC at some point, regardless.

BigRichard 12-19-2011 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8218831)
Herm said this morning that he thinks Romeo already has the job sewn up.

The Chiefs need to re-sign Bowe - what if Bowe really wants Romeo?

It's a horrible situation to be in. All the more reason to not make hasty changes in the middle of a lost season. Now you might be stuck with a guy that's not your first choice.
I would probably agree with Herm here. The reason I say this is because if you look how Romeo was talking about the QB change to Orton and how if Orton continues to play good it could be permanent. He is talking like he will be the one making the call next year. If it isn't the case it seems like he is acting very much like it will be.

Sofa King 12-19-2011 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 8218935)
If he gets hired....then he better bring in a capable OC and a young DC to learn from him. And I don't ****ing mean Josh McDaniels either.
This. Very much this.

Although you forgot to mention QB, but i think that's a given.

The Franchise 12-19-2011 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8218940)
I think there's at least some validity to the idea that Crennel was brought here in case this type of scenario were to occur. In other words, he was going to be the HC at some point, regardless.
Crennel probably told Pioli that when he was brought in. He wasn't going to accept the DC job unless he would get a shot at the HC job down the line.

Red Brooklyn 12-19-2011 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 8218935)
If he gets hired....then he better bring in a capable OC and a young DC to learn from him. And I don't ****ing mean Josh McDaniels either.
Sweet Chocolate Jesus, this! One hundred times this.

Baby Lee 12-19-2011 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 8218907)
I don't know why you'd put any in either.
degrees of credence =! dispositive.

You know, for a guy who seems to constantly decry 'binary thinking' you offer very little regarding building a successful franchise beyond 'suck as hard as you can for a year and grab the best college QB in the draft, rinse and repeat until it sticks.'

It may be contrary to Chiefs history, giving you a patina of indie cred, but it's as simplistic as any other autodidact on here.

The Franchise 12-19-2011 10:35 AM
And I'm not lobbying for Crennel to get the job either. I'd rather have someone from outside the tree. But after this week....it's almost a foregone conclusion that RAC gets the job. There are a few things (which I've stated above) that will need to happen.

1. Hire a capable OC (not McDaniels)
2. Hire a young up and coming DC.
3. Draft a QB in the 1st round next year.
4. Cut Matt Cassel.
5. Re-sign Orton. (optional)

Hammock Parties 12-19-2011 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 8218803)
You told me to find old SuperBowl winning coaches. I gave you three. .
No, I didn't.

Here is what I said:

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Find me a 64-year old interim head coach who went on to win a SB.
Doesn't exist.

You can find a few guys who were already on staff and promoted to HC after the previous HC left (John Madden, George Seifert), but they were ALL under 50.

There's 0 reason to believe Crennel could win a Super Bowl here as HC.

And we haven't even discussed the worst part of hiring Crennel - we'll need a NEW head coach in four, maybe five years MAX when he retires.

Bad ****ing idea.

Fritz88 12-19-2011 05:01 PM
In Romeo's first conference, he says that a new HC has to be able to hire his own coaches.

If RAC gets the job and Pioli forces McDainles on him, we have a problem.

durtyrute 12-19-2011 05:04 PM
KEEP ROMEO

Phobia 12-19-2011 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Omega (Post 8220191)
There's 0 reason to believe Crennel could win a Super Bowl here as HC.
There's zero reason to believe anybody but Hank Stram will win a superbowl in KC because that's what 50 years of NFL history has taught us. Somebody get to work raising that man from the dead.

LOCOChief 12-19-2011 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Omega (Post 8220191)
And we haven't even discussed the worst part of hiring Crennel - we'll need a NEW head coach in four, maybe five years MAX when he retires.

Bad ****ing idea.
unless there are no attractive candidates this year to choose from, I don't see any worth going against the grain of the team at the moment.

Someone will develope / surface of the course of the next couple of years if not within this organization. You know Pioli / Clark would concern themselves with the same issue.

This young team has seen considerable change, maybe Romeo is stability if just for the time being.

htismaqe 12-19-2011 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Omega (Post 8220191)
And we haven't even discussed the worst part of hiring Crennel - we'll need a NEW head coach in four, maybe five years MAX when he retires.
If they bring Cassel back and don't get a real QB, we'll need a new HC AND a new GM in TWO.

Hammock Parties 12-19-2011 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8220384)
If they bring Cassel back and don't get a real QB, we'll need a new HC AND a new GM in TWO.
Yep.

If Crennel is hired and we don't bring in a young QB we're just waiting for these clowns to get fired.

Waste of time.


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