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DBOSHO 12-27-2011 08:14 PM

Dexter got robbed :(

Direckshun 12-27-2011 08:19 PM

There's no reason for Bowe to miss out on the Pro Bowl this year.

He will have brought in 1,100 yards receiving by season's end, from Matt Cassel, Tyler Palko (FOR A MONTH), and Kyle Orton.

Pasta Little Brioni 12-27-2011 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 8239960)
There's no reason for Bowe to miss out on the Pro Bowl this year.

He will have brought in 1,100 yards receiving by season's end, from Matt Cassel, Tyler Palko (FOR A MONTH), and Kyle Orton.

He dropped a couple passes, so some CPers think he's unworthy. The team could barely muster a first down for a month due to some of the worst QB play in team history, so I really don't know what more Bowe needs to do.

BoneKrusher 12-27-2011 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by reschief (Post 8239794)
NFL Network . . . on the "crawl" under Pro Bowl they had Waters listed with KC. But, they got it right on the screen listing him with NE.

haha i saw that as well and thought he's Back? that was fast.

Psyko Tek 12-27-2011 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by JD10367 (Post 8239859)
Pro Bowl is a joke. Even as a Patriots fan I know this. Eight Patriots got voted in. Brady, Welker, Gronk were no-brainers. Slater has been excellent on ST and probably deserved it, as did Waters (for being the lone bright spot on a fluctuating and injured O-line). Logan Mankins had no business being voted in. Andre Carter parlayed a few good sack-filled games into a spot, probably undeserved. Vince Wilfork, while solid, has not played the way you think a guy with his size and resume would. And Aaron Hernandez--who, as a #2 TE, had better numbers than Gates--deserved to go.

I said it before and I'll say it again: until they change the voting protocol, it's a joke. IMO it should be NFL coaches 50% (all coaches, not just HC), sportswriters and players 20% each, and fans 10%.

fans should not be allowed to vote for anything

splatbass 12-27-2011 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by mlyonsd (Post 8239799)
Does anyone actually watch the pro-bowl? I know it's an honor to make it but do you watch it?

I've seen it in person a few times (live about ten miles from the stadium). I occasionally watch it on TV, but it is usually pretty boring.

Bump 12-27-2011 10:03 PM

Phillip Rivers, really? He has absolutely collapsed this season. Proof pro bowl is a joke.

Bump 12-27-2011 10:05 PM

did Brian Waters really play that well this year?

JD10367 12-27-2011 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Bump (Post 8240076)
did Brian Waters really play that well this year?

In a word, yes.

The Patriots have had injuries to Matt Light, Logan Mankins (who has had a subpar year and did NOT deserve a Pro Bowl nod), Sebastian Vollmer, and big rookie Nate Solder (who regressed after a promising start). They lost their starting center. And then they lost their backup center. And yet, with an O-line strung together all year with chewing gum and Scotch tape, Brady is 190 yards behind Brees and Gronk is tearing up the TE record book and tiny Welker is leading the lead in yardage. And the only O-line constant is a guy (Waters) who was supposedly on the downside, and came in from another team. The guy's been money.

MagicHef 12-27-2011 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by JD10367 (Post 8240238)
In a word, yes.

The Patriots have had injuries to Matt Light, Logan Mankins (who has had a subpar year and did NOT deserve a Pro Bowl nod), Sebastian Vollmer, and big rookie Nate Solder (who regressed after a promising start). They lost their starting center. And then they lost their backup center. And yet, with an O-line strung together all year with chewing gum and Scotch tape, Brady is 190 yards behind Brees and Gronk is tearing up the TE record book and tiny Welker is leading the lead in yardage. And the only O-line constant is a guy (Waters) who was supposedly on the downside, and came in from another team. The guy's been money.

Wiegmann was pretty fantastic for the Broncos when we had him. I think KC must get sick of their OL prematurely.

Hammock Parties 12-27-2011 11:24 PM

I'm really proud of DJ.

It's hard to make the Pro Bowl as an ILB in a 3-4.

Tribal Warfare 12-27-2011 11:26 PM

AFC West Pro Bowl analysis
 
AFC West Pro Bowl analysis

Perfect sense:
Kansas City might be in last place, but linebackers Derrick Johnson and Tamba Hali are top-level players. They both deserve this honor. They are building-block players on a young defense. Johnson is a tackling machine, and Hali, who has 12 sacks, is one of the better pass-rushers in the NFL. Oakland kicker Sebastian Janikowski made his first Pro Bowl in his 12-year career. It is past due and well deserved. Janikowski, who tied an NFL record with a 63-yard field goal at Denver in Week 1, is a great weapon. Oakland punter Shane Lechler is one of the game’s all-time best punters. He always deserves to go to the Pro Bowl. San Diego safety Eric Weddle is tied for the league lead with seven interceptions. He is earning his $40 million deal he signed this year. Denver linebacker Von Miller also deserves to be a Pro Bowler. He has 11.5 sacks, and he’s been a complete player. The No. 2 overall draft pick has made a bigger impact as a run-stopper and has been a catalyst to a much-improved defense. Kudos to Denver cornerback Champ Bailey, who is still playing at a high level. He is one of five players ever to be named to 11 Pro Bowls and is the only cornerback with 10 or more Pro Bowls. Can you say “first-ballot Hall of Famer”?

2011 Pro Bowlers: AFC West

Denver Broncos
CB Champ Bailey*
DE Elvis Dumervil
LB Von Miller*

Kansas City Chiefs

LB Tamba Hali
LB Derrick Johnson
Oakland Raiders
K Sebastian Janikowski
P Shane Lechler
DT Richard Seymour

San Diego Chargers

TE Antonio Gates
QB Philip Rivers
S Eric Weddle
*denotes starter
Made it on rep: A few AFC West stars made the Pro Bowl in injury-filled years. Oakland defensive tackle Richard Seymour was banged up and had some games in which he didn’t have much effect. Still, he did have some moments of greatness. He blocked two field goals in an Oakland overtime win at Kansas City on Saturday. San Diego tight end Antonio Gates dealt with a lot of injuries this season and didn't take over many games, but he had 59 catches and is still a premier player despite the injuries. Denver defensive end Elvis Dumervil, the first Denver defensive lineman to make the Pro Bowl in nine years, had a great season, but he didn’t enjoy a full season. He has 9.5 sacks, all in the past eight games. He was slowed by injuries early in the season. San Diego quarterback Philip Rivers had big yardage numbers (he became the third player in history to throw for more than 4,000 yards in four straight seasons). But he has thrown 19 interceptions and was out of sync for much of the season.

Get robbed: Denver running back Willis McGahee has been the lynchpin to the NFL’s best running offense. A big reason the Tim Tebow offense has worked is because McGahee –- one of the best free-agent signings in the NFL this year -- ran so well. He is enjoying resurgence at the age of 30. McGahee, who has 1,054 yards rushing and has averaged 4.8 yards per carry, is reportedly a first alternate. San Diego running back Ryan Mathews also had a strong season and a case to make the team. He is a second alternate. Kansas City receiver Dwayne Bowe had 75 catches and a nice season. Oakland safety Tyvon Branch and fullback Marcel Reece each had big years, and could have earned spots on the team. Perhaps each player will get his due next season. By the way, Tebow reportedly is a second alternate. Because quarterbacks often bow out, there is a strong chance Tebow will be eating pineapple in Hawaii next month.

FloridaMan88 12-28-2011 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 8239960)
There's no reason for Bowe to miss out on the Pro Bowl this year.

He will have brought in 1,100 yards receiving by season's end, from Matt Cassel, Tyler Palko (FOR A MONTH), and Kyle Orton.

Maybe, just maybe the rest of the NFL sees in Bowe what the dumbshit Chiefs homers refuse to see? That he drops too many passes. That he gives an inconsistent effort. That he vanishes way too much in games for an alleged "elite" WR.

GoHuge 12-28-2011 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 8239960)
There's no reason for Bowe to miss out on the Pro Bowl this year.

He will have brought in 1,100 yards receiving by season's end, from Matt Cassel, Tyler Palko (FOR A MONTH), and Kyle Orton.

Heard Rich Baldinger today on 810 say we needed to move Bowe for some picks........."take what we can get." Dude has got to be the dumbest ****in analyst Chiefs/Pee Wee football. Can't even stand the sound of his voice. He needs to stick to running people over. Gotta be good at something. So far 1 for 1.

Hammock Parties 12-28-2011 12:34 AM

If you hired Rich Baldinger and Tim Grunhard to lead the Chiefs franchise it would have to leave Kansas City within 3 years.


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