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htismaqe 01-10-2012 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 8283353)
The most surprising part of this mock is the absence of Albert bashing. A big step in the right direction.

Honestly, if that first pick can't be a QB nobody is going to be happy anyway...

Oh it's not absent. It's just more subtle.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...28&postcount=9

jd1020 01-10-2012 04:51 PM

Pretty much the only pick I like in this mock is the Cattouse pick. I've been pimping him in my mocks for a while.

Peter Konz at 11/12?
Matt Reynolds in the early second? The guy has a pretty universal 3rd-4th projection.
Derek Wolfe in the 3rd?
Vick Ballard in the 4th? Give me Robert Turbin in the 4th. Give me Vick Ballard/Tauren Poole in the 5th+.

No clue who the 5th/7th round picks are so I can't comment but they probably fall in line with the overall theme of the rest of this.

Saccopoo 01-10-2012 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8283233)
Yeah, because using all those high draft picks on offensive linemen has helped control the line of scrimmage for the Rams...

The Rams, to quote the crusader in Indiana Jones, picked poorly. I didn't like Smith going into the draft. I think Saffold, a second round pick, is pretty good, but is better suited to the right side. And, in all honesty, they don't have a very good interior line.

As much crap as I give Albert, he did have an okay year this past year. The Chiefs need a right tackle however. They also need a center.

With the defensive improvements that we've seen this past year and the return of Berry next season, having a bit more leverage in ball control situations (which we haven't had in the past couple years) would really benefit this team.

Guys like Konz and Reynolds added to what we already have would really solidify that aspect of the game. (And that has been a problem for this offense the past three or four seasons.)

Blick 01-10-2012 04:59 PM

Would take the OL picks if we got a QB like Moore later.

Damn the size, that kid can play.

Saccopoo 01-10-2012 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Urc Burry (Post 8283348)
Did I call them shitty teams?

How did your boy Zane Taylor turn out? And Brian Bulaga would of been such a steal at the 5th pick in the '10 draft!

Can I safely assume you are mormon for how biased you are of your Utah linemen?

What does my religious affiliation have to do with anything? (Even assuming that I have a religious affiliation.) You have a problem with certain religions?

And I don't think that Bulaga matriculated at a Utah institution of higher learning.

As well, you did say "shitty conferences," which would imply the Big Ten, the Pac 12, the MWC (which has won a number of BCS bowls recently). Yep, those "shitty" conferences.

As well, I was advocating Taylor in the sixth round. I don't think that's too much of a reach for a player at a position that the Chiefs needed.

You are kind of an idiot, aren't you?

jd1020 01-10-2012 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 8283440)
Pretty much the only pick I like in this mock is the Cattouse pick. I've been pimping him in my mocks for a while.

Peter Konz at 11/12?
Matt Reynolds in the early second? The guy has a pretty universal 3rd-4th projection.
Derek Wolfe in the 3rd?
Vick Ballard in the 4th? Give me Robert Turbin in the 4th. Give me Vick Ballard/Tauren Poole in the 5th+.

No clue who the 5th/7th round picks are so I can't comment but they probably fall in line with the overall theme of the rest of this.

AUBURN--Auburn junior tight end Philip Lutzenkirchen, who was a second-team All-Southeastern Conference selection in 2011, will return for his senior season. As a junior, Lutzenkirchen was third on the team in receptions (24) and receiving yards (238) while catching a team-high seven touchdowns.

"I'm excited to be coming back to Auburn for my senior season and help us work towards our goal we set every year, which is playing in the SEC Championship game in Atlanta," Lutzenkirchen said. "It was an easy decision to make and finishing 2011 with a win in the Chick-fil-A Bowl will be huge in helping us prepare for 2012."

A native of Marietta, Ga., Lutzenkirchen has 44 career receptions for 489 yards and 14 touchdowns. He is the school record holder for career touchdown receptions by a tight end.

"We're looking forward to Philip returning for his senior season," Auburn head coach Gene Chizik said. "The success he's had at Auburn will help provide great leadership for our team in 2012."

Auburn finished the 2011 season with an 8-5 record after defeating Virginia, 43-24, in the Chick-fil-A Bowl on Dec. 31.

...........

I still can't find anything on Caleb Mcsurdy. No one even so much as mentions his name.

EDIT: http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings...012&genpos=ILB

There he is!!!!!!!... the 46th ranked ILB according to nfldraftscout. Seems like a viable option for a draft pick.

O.city 01-10-2012 07:38 PM

If we are goin ILB, I'd take Hightower in the second and Nate Potter in the third if he is around.

Whatever happens in the 1st round, happens I guess. Konz isn't flashy but we do need a C.

Saul Good 01-10-2012 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 8283119)
How many passes did Tebow complete when the Broncos beat the Chiefs in Arrowhead this past season?

And how many yards did Matt Stafford pass for the past two games, which were both losses?

You still have to control the line of scrimmage.

Tebow beat a combination of Cassel and Palko.



As for Stafford, he threw for 759 yards with 4 TDs and 3 INTs in the two games against the Saints.

Meanwhile, Brees threw for 801 yards, 6 TDs, and 0 INTs.


The better QB won both games.

Saccopoo 01-10-2012 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8283748)
If we are goin ILB, I'd take Hightower in the second and Nate Potter in the third if he is around.

Whatever happens in the 1st round, happens I guess. Konz isn't flashy but we do need a C.

Nate Potter is, like former Bronco Clady, going to end up on the left side of the line. He's very athletic with very good technique, but he's not a real power player. I think he'll be a pretty good pro, but he's going to have to be in the right system.

I seriously doubt Hightower will make it to the second round. He looks likes he's back to full speed, which is remarkable considering the massive damage his knee took in that malicious hit two seasons ago. He's got huge legs and can drive through most blockers. He's prototype for the 3-4 MLB position. He'll drop over concerns about his knee, but he won't drop too far. If he's there in the second, the Chiefs should seriously consider him.

Nightfyre 01-10-2012 10:09 PM

How did Sacc just out-sacc himself?

Chiefnj2 01-11-2012 09:36 AM

Chiefs Run Blocking Grades, per PFF

Wiegmann: -4.4 (26th out of 35)
Albert: -1.0 (32nd out of 76)
Asamoah: -12.3 (70th out of 77)
Lilja: -3.8 (40th out of 77)
Richardson: -19.5 (76th out 76)

Saccopoo 01-11-2012 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8284981)
Chiefs Run Blocking Grades, per PFF

Wiegmann: -4.4 (26th out of 35)
Albert: -1.0 (32nd out of 76)
Asamoah: -12.3 (70th out of 77)
Lilja: -3.8 (40th out of 77)
Richardson: -19.5 (76th out 76)

That looks about right.

Amazing how everyone thought that our guys were superlative run blockers when Charles was in there and when he goes down for the season, it's a different story. Weird.

El Jefe 01-11-2012 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8284981)
Chiefs Run Blocking Grades, per PFF

Wiegmann: -4.4 (26th out of 35)
Albert: -1.0 (32nd out of 76)
Asamoah: -12.3 (70th out of 77)
Lilja: -3.8 (40th out of 77)
Richardson: -19.5 (76th out 76)

Ouch!

The Franchise 01-11-2012 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 8285124)
That looks about right.

Amazing how everyone thought that our guys were superlative run blockers when Charles was in there and when he goes down for the season, it's a different story. Weird.

Obviously a better RB is going to skew numbers.

Saccopoo 01-11-2012 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 8285159)
Obviously a better RB is going to skew numbers.

I was being facetious and attempting to point out that everyone last year felt our offensive line was just fine because "Look! We are the number one rushing team in the league!"

Charles is that good, and was able to make Cassel a Pro Bowler and Albert and Richardson respectable in some peoples eyes. However, knowing the shelf life of a NFL running back is shorter than Howard Stern's unit, it still amazes me to see people advocating taking Trent Richardson, a young quarterback (Tannehill - and seriously, who in their right mind thinks Tannehill at #11 is a sane pick? That's ludicrious.), etc., when our offensive trench is so ineffective.


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