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Direckshun 02-07-2012 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 8355543)
This isn't a good year to draft a 1st round QB unless you have a shot at Luck or RGIII.
Weren't you JUST disagreeing with me earlier in this thread when I just said the exact same thing?

If so, that's a hell of a pivot you just did.

And you have to credit me with changing your mind. :D

DJ's left nut 02-07-2012 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 8356136)
Weren't you JUST disagreeing with me earlier in this thread when I just said the exact same thing?

If so, that's a hell of a pivot you just did.

And you have to credit me with changing your mind. :D
JUST is probably sometime several weeks ago; the thread's been around while.

And yeah, I have changed my mind, but mostly because I've sold myself on the upside of Richardson while also being scared away by how raw Tannehill is.

Tannehill is still a guy that I'd probably be fine with them taking, but he's just so green that I don't think you're any better for taking him than you would be waiting to get a more developed prospect with the same upside in 2012.

Frankie 02-07-2012 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 8355543)
Bray, Manual, Murray could all potentially be 1st round talents.

And there's always 1 more guy that emerges that isn't really on the radar prior to the season, if I were a betting man I would say that guy will be Logan Thomas coming out as a JR; great size and arm, performed nicely last season as a thrower and ran the ball well also.

There is a good chance that next years draft has 5 QBs better than the 3rd best QB in this season's draft.

This isn't a good year to draft a 1st round QB unless you have a shot at Luck or RGIII.
Thanks. Now I know what college games to catch next year. I have a feeling that the 2013 draft is the one in which we'll get go after a high round QB.

My favorite scenario though is IF Stanzi is given a chance to compete and actually pulls a Brady.

Sorter 02-07-2012 09:42 PM
My own take is that apart from Luck and RG3, it is best to sadly wait for a QB next year, when Bray, Wilson, and Barkley are all available.

BigChiefFan 02-08-2012 11:07 AM
Luck is definitely the cream of the crop.

I'm ambivilent on RG3. He's a heck of an athlete and makes some pretty passes. I just think he can be a bit erratic at times and he tends to lock onto receivers, at times. I'm also a little cautious of his frame withstanding the hits, he'll undoubtedly take in the NFL. He's a high-risk, high-reward type.

I sure would love to see the Colts keep Manning and trade the pick.

Chiefs bet the farm on Luck. 3 firsts, 2 seconds, plus whatever else it takes.

whoman69 02-08-2012 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 8358417)
Luck is definitely the cream of the crop.

I'm ambivilent on RG3. He's a heck of an athlete and makes some pretty passes. I just think he can be a bit erratic at times and he tends to lock onto receivers, at times. I'm also a little cautious of his frame withstanding the hits, he'll undoubtedly take in the NFL. He's a high-risk, high-reward type.

I sure would love to see the Colts keep Manning and trade the pick.

Chiefs bet the farm on Luck. 3 firsts, 2 seconds, plus whatever else it takes.
That would be a hugely stupid moves by the Colts trading a franchise QB who could be there 15 years while hanging onto a 36 year old QB at a time when the franchise has to be rebuilding. It would also be an incredibly stupid move for the Chiefs to potentially give away 5 starters on your team and sell away the future of the franchise. If you have a starter with a career ending injury or lose one to FA, you've just sold any chance to get his replacement.

htismaqe 02-08-2012 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 8359289)
That would be a hugely stupid moves by the Colts trading a franchise QB who could be there 15 years while hanging onto a 36 year old QB at a time when the franchise has to be rebuilding. It would also be an incredibly stupid move for the Chiefs to potentially give away 5 starters on your team and sell away the future of the franchise. If you have a starter with a career ending injury or lose one to FA, you've just sold any chance to get his replacement.
Yeah, I was going to say something but decided not to way in.

If the Colts were to keep Manning and trade Luck (or the pick), they're the dumbest franchise ever.

Frankie 02-08-2012 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 8359289)
That would be a hugely stupid moves by the Colts trading a franchise QB who could be there 15 years while hanging onto a 36 year old QB at a time when the franchise has to be rebuilding. It would also be an incredibly stupid move for the Chiefs to potentially give away 5 starters on your team and sell away the future of the franchise. If you have a starter with a career ending injury or lose one to FA, you've just sold any chance to get his replacement.
Absolutamente.

BigChiefFan 02-08-2012 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 8359289)
That would be a hugely stupid moves by the Colts trading a franchise QB who could be there 15 years while hanging onto a 36 year old QB at a time when the franchise has to be rebuilding. It would also be an incredibly stupid move for the Chiefs to potentially give away 5 starters on your team and sell away the future of the franchise. If you have a starter with a career ending injury or lose one to FA, you've just sold any chance to get his replacement.
When you have forty years plus of disappointment, you look for any gleamer of hope you've got at getting a franchise QB. I know it's high unlikely, but son of gun, if I won't enjoy the small window to dream of a franchise QB being drafted by the Chiefs.

whoman69 02-08-2012 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 8359497)
When you have forty years plus of disappointment, you look for any gleamer of hope you've got at getting a franchise QB. I know it's high unlikely, but son of gun, if I won't enjoy the small window to dream of a franchise QB being drafted by the Chiefs.
I feel your pain. I started watching the Chiefs in 1970.

Frankie 02-08-2012 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 8359685)
I feel your pain. I started watching the Chiefs in 1970.
:toast:

Same here. So I shouldn't feel like I AM the one who jinxed them as soon as I started being their fan.

Dave Lane 02-08-2012 11:14 PM
Foles or Weeden for me if we can't make a deal to move up.

BigChiefFan 02-09-2012 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 8360221)
Foles or Weeden for me if we can't make a deal to move up.
Weeden is too damn old to hitch our wagon to and it's a shame, too because he actually has some talent. I want a long-term fix though, not Chris Weinke.

Dave Lane 02-09-2012 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 8360265)
Weeden is too damn old to hitch our wagon to and it's a shame, too because he actually has some talent. I want a long-term fix though, not Chris Weinke.
He could easily be a QB for 6-8 years. Long term for the Chiefs seems like 2 seasons.

HemiEd 02-09-2012 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 8360002)
:toast:

Same here. So I shouldn't feel like I AM the one who jinxed them as soon as I started being their fan.
3 of us, thought it was my fault.


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