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The Franchise 01-24-2012 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8322486)
Finally, the first day of quarterback competition was an easy victory in favor of Oklahoma State’s Brandon Weeden, the 28-year-old former Minor League baseball player. Weeden was on point all afternoon long, hitting receivers in stride in one-on-one drills, seven-on-sevens and, more importantly, team drills. Weeden also impressed with his ability to throw on the move, especially rolling left on a few play-action plays. Knowing that every team will be concerned about his advanced age, Weeden was very polished following practice in his explanation of using his maturity as a strength, rather than a weakness. Perhaps the upside isn’t atmospheric with Weeden, but his floor is relatively high.

I'm fully expecting us to take Weeden.

Pioli likes players with high floors and Weeden is the epitome of that.

Mr_Tomahawk 01-24-2012 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 8323144)
I'm fully expecting us to take Weeden.

Pioli likes players with high floors and Weeden is the epitome of that.

I hope we stay away from Weeden. He has what...5 years of QB play in him?

Chiefnj2 01-24-2012 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 8323151)
I hope we stay away from Weeden. He has what...5 years of QB play in him?

I'll take 5 years of Weeden over 2-3 years of Orton/Cassel and then another mediocre vet.

Mr_Tomahawk 01-24-2012 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8323155)
I'll take 5 years of Weeden over 2-3 years of Orton/Cassel and then another mediocre vet.

I would too...it would just be a shame knowing we will be in the same situation in a few more years looking for his replacement.

Direckshun 01-24-2012 11:15 AM

Favorite measurables so far:

Nick Foles is huge, with big hands. Love. It.

Alameda Ta'amu still seems more like a 4-3 nose than a 3-4 nose when I watch him play, but at 341 lbs, he might change my mind. Might. He'll be there at our second rounder.

Russell Wilson is a little smaller by an inch or two than I thought. Kellen Moore is no where near where I thought he was -- he's actually six feet tall. He's officially a low rounder.

Vick Ballard looks really solid, but he's a teency bit smaller than I anticipated.

All the best talent at RB is with the big RBs.

Kinda small TEs this year. The NFL is craving the more athletic types now.

Cordy Glenn is massive -- 6'4", 350 lbs.

This draft is rich in thumper ILBs. I like Belcher, but if we want one, we can get one virtually anywhere in this draft.

DJ's left nut 01-24-2012 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 8321078)
Holy crap. Removing Russell Wilson from my list.

Longer arms, thicker frame.

Of the two, I'd prefer Wilson's physical attributes. Moore's a marginally better prospect, but I still think Wilson has a better frame.

O.city 01-24-2012 11:39 AM

Hope we could get Polk, I like him alot.


If Burfict is around in the second or third round we def need to grab him.

ToxSocks 01-24-2012 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 8322194)
I noticed that awhile back.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...1&postcount=22

Cousins is who I hope the Chiefs go after since they aren't going to be going after any QB in the first, no matter how bad people on here want to believe they will.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/_qiprnWO5go" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

:30 and 1:43.

No thank you. Not sure what you see in this guy. He made a few play there in that video, but his footwork looks like shit, he bounces around in the pocket and he has that same funky Matt Cassel wind up in his throws.

I don't see anything in that video that would lead me to believe he can be a great QB.

Frosty 01-24-2012 11:57 AM

During the Senior Bowl practice segment on NFL Network yesterday, Mayock compared Kellen Moore's arm strength to Tyler Palko's. He said Moore's was a little better but it was damning with faint praise, IMO.

ToxSocks 01-24-2012 11:59 AM

Sucks to hear about Lindley. Weakest arm? Yikes. He sure as hell didn't display a weak arm in the games he played. If he doesn't get his shit together, dude is in for a major slide.

ToxSocks 01-24-2012 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 8323253)
During the Senior Bowl practice segment on NFL Network yesterday, Mayock compared Kellen Moore's arm strength to Tyler Palko's. He said Moore's was a little better but it was damning with faint praise, IMO.

Comparing someone to Tyler Palko is NEVER a good thing.

Frosty 01-24-2012 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 8323257)
Comparing someone to Tyler Palko is NEVER a good thing.

They mostly showed Wilson and Cousins but the few times that the showed Moore throw, it looked to me like was really heaving it to get it out there.

Chiefnj2 01-24-2012 12:51 PM

Tuesday Morning North

10:42 a.m. CT -- S George Iloka of Boise State just made a beautiful interception of a pass thrown by Kirk Cousins. Iloka stepped in front of the receiver and grabbed the ball away.

- RB Chris Polk of Washington display terrific straigh ahead speed and power yet shows little in the way of creativity or the ability to elude defenders.

- DL Mike Martin of Michigan continues to impress. He's shown the ability to finish plays today and has been a disruptive force all day.

- DT Derek Wolfe of Cincinnati has been mostly quiet but just made a terrific play beating a double team block to get behind the line of scrimmage.

- WR Marvn McNutt of Iowa continues to struggle. He had a step on a defender 30 yards downfield, Leonard Johnsin of Iowa State, but dropped a pass perfectly placed in his hands by Kirk Cousins.

- OL Joe Looney of Wake Forest, who replaced the injured Garth Gerhart, is gingerly walking off the field with what looks like an ankle injury.

- LB James-Michael Johnson of Nevada has shown a lot of athleticism on the field today. He easily moves about the field, showing the ability to quickly get outside the box or get depth on pass drops. He's not made many plays on the ball, but is omnipresent moving around the field.

- WR Gerrell Robinson of Arizona State made several terrific catches in scrimmage. He continues to run good routes and really does a nice job using his 220-pound frame to box out cornerbacks and physically beat them down for the catch.

- RB Doug Martin of Boise State continues to impress scouts with his versatility. Beside displaying a variety of skils carrying the ball he looked good returning kicks during special teams practice.

- CB Asa Jackson of Cal-Poly has been quiet during the defensive drills but looked very good returning punts. He's been able to handle the 60-yard moonshots that have been coming off the foot of Wisconsin's Brad Nortman on a very breezy day.

10:18 a.m. CT -- QB Russell Wilson of Wisconsin has been up and down all morning. At times he throws beautiful, catchable passes that quickly arrive to the receivers' hands. Other times his passes resemble a wounded duck as they flutter in the air.

- RB Doug Martin of Boise State has looked terrific thus far. He runs with great quickness and shows a burst through the hole. Martin is also very patient and does a nice job side-stepping defenders to create yardage.

- DT Mike Martin of Michigan has been a disruptive force all morning. He just threw Penn State lineman Johnnie Troutman to the ground and blew up a running play.

- RB Isaiah Pead of Cincinnati is again the toughest running back to tackle. He shows terrific footwork and just gave Notre Dame safety Harrison Smith a nice stiff arm to keep his play alive.

- WR Brian Quick of Appalachian State continues to struggle. He shows very limited quickness in his game and cannot separate from defenders.

- TE Emil Igwenagu of UMass has looked terrific as a blocker this morning. He's lined up at both fullback and on the line as a tight end, and no one has been able to get by him. He's small, but tough and strong. Igwenagu just made a terrific catch in double coverage.

- OL Kevin Zeitler of Wisconsin has been shifting with Mike Brewster at the center position today.

- DT Kendall Reyes of UConn has been a force this morning. He shows great explosion off the snap, as well as a variety of moves with his hands. Reyes has gotten a lot of penetration and just destoryed Zeitler of Wisconsin in one-on-one drills.

- C Mike Brewster of Ohio State and DT Mike Martine of Michigan are again battling hard in practice. Brewster laughed about it yesterday and noted it's just a continuation of what's taken place the past four years.

- G Kelechi Osemele of Iowa State has had a solid morning. He uses his wide body to seal defenders from the action and was able to overwhelm the smaller Vinny Curry.

- OL Tony Bergstrom of Utah has had a solid day. One one play he steered the athletic Jack Craford of Penn State from his pass-rush angle, then in another instance buried Billy Winn of Boise State. Winn has not looked good at all. He looked sloppy in weigh-ins and has not been a factor at all in practice.

10 a.m. CT -- Safety George Iloka of Boise State has had a quick start to the morning. He looks terrific in drills, displaying sound footwork in reverse and the ability to burst to the ball out of his plant.

- QB Kellen Moore of Boise State continues to struggle. The speed on his throws is notably slower than any of the other signal callers at practice this morning.

- WR Gerell Robinson of Arizona State looks solid. He runs exceptionally quick and crisp routes for a receiver that tips the scales in excess of 220 pounds.

- QB Kirk Cousins of Michigan State continues to throw the ball with terrific speed and velocity. Receivers are never waiting on the pass as they leave their breaks.

- OLB Shea McCLellin of Boise State continues to impress since making the move to linebacker. He destroyed several running backs and fullbacks this morning in pass-rushing drills in which he simulated standing up over a tackle.

- What's so impressive about T Mike Adams of Ohio State is the way he easily moves his 330-pound frame around the field. Even this morning, when asked to block in motion, Adams quickly gets out to the second level and is able to adjust and block linebackers thanks to his agililty.

DaKCMan AP 01-24-2012 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 8323159)
Favorite measurables so far:

Kellen Moore is no where near where I thought he was -- he's actually six feet tall. He's officially a low rounder.

Vick Ballard looks really solid, but he's a teency bit smaller than I anticipated.

All the best talent at RB is with the big RBs.

Moore is short with small hands. Nothing's changed.

Ballard is 5'10" 217. That's perfect size, IMO.

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 8323161)
Longer arms, thicker frame.

Of the two, I'd prefer Wilson's physical attributes. Moore's a marginally better prospect, but I still think Wilson has a better frame.

Of the two I'd prefer Wilson, but I don't want either.

jd1020 01-24-2012 01:08 PM

Cousins on his way to moving ahead of Pioli's draftable QB rounds. SOB needs to have a bad pratice already.


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