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Direckshun 07-28-2012 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by JD10367 (Post 8773819)
As of July 1st, here were the top teams with the most salary cap space:

Jacksonville Jaguars: $25,115,885
Tennessee Titans: $19,970,080
Cleveland Browns: $17,774,764
Kansas City Chiefs: $16,548,048
Cincinnati Bengals: $16,309,693
Philadelphia Eagles: $15,879,570
Tampa Bay Buccaneers: $15,740,231
Indianapolis Colts: $14,595,514
Green Bay Packers: $11,255,804
Denver Broncos: $10,878,461
New England Patriots: $10,873,988

While I'd love to dream about Wallace in a Flying Elvis helmet, and we all can worry about Peyton-to-Wallace, the truth is that the Chiefs are the team with more room, if they ever decide to stop being cheap. (Yeah, the Jags, Titans, and Browns have even more room... but I don't see those teams doing anything.)
The Browns and the Bucs make a ton of sense.

tk13 07-28-2012 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 8774007)
Fine is a relative word. Do you think they would have lost the Super Bowl against the Packers had Santonio Holmes been a member of their squad? I don't.
Really? I don't think it mattered. I think I'd rather have Mike Wallace than Holmes. But I really like Wallace, his speed is incredible.

Most importantly though, Aaron Rodgers was in a zone than almost no other QB has ever been in for that playoff run. That was some of the best QB play the NFL has ever seen. Nobody was beating that team.

DaneMcCloud 07-28-2012 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 8774016)
Really? I don't think it mattered. I think I'd rather have Mike Wallace than Holmes. But I really like Wallace, his speed is incredible.

Most importantly though, Aaron Rodgers was in a zone than almost no other QB has ever been in for that playoff run. That was some of the best QB play the NFL has ever seen. Nobody was beating that team.
Um, do you remember the game? Ben was awful, throwing interception after interception and one for a TD. The Steelers came back and lost 31-25.

It's only speculation but had Holmes been on that team, he would have been the difference. Regardless, I don't think that trading Holmes for a 5th round choice was the best move for the Steelers.

The Mayor 07-28-2012 10:41 AM
This is true. The Steelers physically controlled that game. Ben had some really bad moments that blew it.

DaneMcCloud 07-28-2012 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 8774012)
The Browns and the Bucs make a ton of sense.
The Browns are in the middle of being sold and the Bucs and Schiano won't deal with a miscontent.

Direckshun 07-28-2012 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 8774032)
The Browns are in the middle of being sold and the Bucs and Schiano won't deal with a miscontent.
They just signed Vincent Jackson who was having the exact same kind of contract dispute with his former team.

tk13 07-28-2012 10:51 AM
I guess my recollection of that game is different than everyone else's. The Packers jumped out to a big lead... the Steelers came back, but Mike Wallace had a nice game. Either way Rodgers outplayed Roethlisberger regardless of who the WR's were.

Rodgers was playing at a near flawless level in that playoffs. Nobody was beating that team. I didn't think this was even debatable. It was really something to watch. It's amazing how quickly people forget things.

DaneMcCloud 07-28-2012 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 8774038)
They just signed Vincent Jackson who was having the exact same kind of contract dispute with his former team.
Which is another reason why they won't be giving up picks for Mike Wallace.

DaneMcCloud 07-28-2012 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 8774044)
I guess my recollection of that game is different than everyone else's. The Packers jumped out to a big lead... the Steelers came back, but Mike Wallace had a nice game. Either way Rodgers outplayed Roethlisberger regardless of who the WR's were.
Wallace: 9 receptions, 89 yards, 1 TD, long 25
Ward: 7 receptions, 78 yards, 1 TD, 17 long
Randle El: 2 receptions, 50 yards
Sanders: 2 receptions, 17 yards
Miller: 2 receptions, 12 yards.

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 8774044)
Rodgers was playing at a near flawless level in that playoffs. Nobody was beating that team. I didn't think this was even debatable. It was really something to watch. It's amazing how quickly people forget things.
Um, the Steelers beat themselves. In addition to Ben's two interceptions (one for a TD), they had a fumble early. They came out extremely flat, yet only lost by six.

The Packers won, but not because they were unbeatable.

tk13 07-28-2012 11:00 AM
Well this is the NFL. No one is unbeatable. Otherwise you're just being arbitrary. Heck, I'd give you Ward, Wallace, and Holmes... I'd still take 2010 Rodgers over them. That was a really good team. That's why they went out and won 18 or 19 in a row or whatever it was. That doesn't guarantee winning a single game... but that was a really good team. Rodgers was in a zone that few, if any QB's have ever been in. I just don't think he would've let them lose. That was truly some of the best QB play I have ever seen. That doesn't even include that Rodgers can make throws 95% of QB's can't make... just from a pure quality of play standpoint he was amazing.

The Mayor 07-28-2012 11:05 AM
2010 Rodgers was great. 2011 Rodgers was incredible. They nearly missed the playoffs in 2010 with a ton of injuries.

tk13 07-28-2012 11:08 AM
2011 Rodgers was mostly an extension of 2010 Rodgers in the playoffs. That's why they won the Super Bowl. He was amazing. The only team that slowed him down really was Chicago. That game against the Falcons was an all-timer.

The Mayor 07-28-2012 11:23 AM
I've never felt sorry for a team, not even Miami in Dan Marino's last game which was a horrible way to go out. Damn if I didn't feel bad for Atlanta for what Rodgers did to them that day.

Titty Meat 07-28-2012 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by DTLB58 (Post 8773810)
Doesn't matter. Pioli/Hunt aren't going to pay big $ for a WR.
They know what they have at QB. It would be a waste to pay for a speed guy. Makes more sense to pay Bowe and they didn't do that.

Next subject.
This is just a ridiculous comment. It doesn't matter who the qb is. Defenses still have to respect Wallace's speed. Even with Cassel at qb you still can stretch the defense with a guy like Wallace.

ShowtimeSBMVP 07-28-2012 01:38 PM
Evan Silva ‏@evansilva

The Pittsburgh Trib-Review says Mike Wallace wants V-Jax money ($11.1 million annually), not Fitzgerald money ($15M): http://bit.ly/mpMpS3


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