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jd1020 08-17-2012 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8825483)
KC got torched through the air last year by Fitzpatrick, Moore and Sanchez, yet KC fans are selling Ryan and the Falcons short?

KC also dominated Aaron Rodgers, so...

O.city 08-17-2012 11:04 AM

We are gonna have to play really well to beat the Falcons. Cassel is gonna have to not shit his pants and have a good game, er, good season.


The Falcons aren't the pushover some think they are.

Chiefnj2 08-17-2012 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 8825495)
KC also dominated Aaron Rodgers, so...

It was the best game KC played all year, but they were helped by the Packers receivers getting all Bowe/Baldwin with stone hands.

jd1020 08-17-2012 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8825506)
It was the best game KC played all year, but they were helped by the Packers receivers getting all Bowe/Baldwin with stone hands.

Rodgers doesn't complete 48% of his passes because of the receivers. They may have dropped a couple easy ones but he still has by far his worst game last season against the Chiefs.

Mr. Laz 08-17-2012 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 8825487)
I don't think he needs to be carried as a RB to be used as one.
In fact, that makes him all the more valuable to the offense.
His ability to be used in different ways.

why would you want to use McCluster at RB at all?

what does he do that another RB doesn't do better?

Charles - better RB, better 3rd down back,better receiving back, better blocker
Hillis - better RB,better power,better receiving back,better blocker
Draughn - looks better at everything too so far
Gray - looks better at everything too so far

hopefully DMC can find a home at WR and be productive, but i don't need to see him at RB ever again ... ever.

Don't need to see him at returner either.

Arenas/Wylie > McCluster

apparentl Cyrus Gray is a quality special teamer and returner as well and he is actually big enough to cover on kicks too.

jd1020 08-17-2012 11:10 AM

The only runs McCluster is going to get is on end arounds.

Micjones 08-17-2012 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 8825517)
why would you want to use McCluster at RB at all?

Because it creates a mismatch defensively.
If he's a WR and you see him lined up in the backfield, it'll be tough for a defense to know what to expect from him.

I'm not arguing that he should be carried as a RB.
I'm not arguing that he's better than any of the RB's we expect the Chiefs to retain.

I'm arguing purely from a matchup/scheming standpoint.

To say he won't be used in the backfield at all this season is a stretch.

O.city 08-17-2012 11:12 AM

How exactly does that create a defensive mismatch? Teams know what he brings as a RB and it's probably not too frightening.

Mr. Laz 08-17-2012 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 8825526)
Because it creates a mismatch defensively.

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo


that's a dam myth

who would you rather have catch a pass out of the backfield?

(ranks them 1 thru 3)

Charles
Hillis
McCluster


if DMC isn't 3 then you're a liar

Charles better at making people miss (by a mile)
Hillis is better at running through tackles (by a mile)

both Charles/Hillis are legit threats to run the ball as well as catching a pass. DMC can't pass block and isn't much of a threat to run so teams know he's out there to catch a pass.

give it up to DMC though ... he's best at getting blown up and not dying. He's a tough little ****er.

O.city 08-17-2012 11:18 AM

Dex has looked better as a WR this offseason. Just leave him there, let him get his 2 or 3 touches per game and move on.

Micjones 08-17-2012 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8825527)
How exactly does that create a defensive mismatch? Teams know what he brings as a RB and it's probably not too frightening.

I misspoke. Forget the word "mismatch".
It 'potentially' creates an offensive advantage. Better?

Or shall I just adopt the company line that he's a piece of shit who can't help this football team?

O.city 08-17-2012 11:19 AM

I don't think he's worthless, I think he can be somewhat dynamic as a WR.

Mr. Laz 08-17-2012 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 8825551)
I misspoke. Forget the word "mismatch".
It 'potentially' creates an offensive advantage. Better?

Or shall I just adopt the company line that he's a piece of shit who can't help this football team?

sure he can help ..... AS A WR.

every chiefs fan needs to cross their fingers and hope that DMC can use his quickness to be our wes welker or Desean Jackson.

leave all the RB stuff to the good RB's

Micjones 08-17-2012 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 8825547)
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo


that's a dam myth

who would you rather have catch a pass out of the backfield?

(ranks them 1 thru 3)

Charles
Hillis
McCluster


if DMC isn't 3 then you're a liar

Charles better at making people miss (by a mile)
Hillis is better at running through tackles (by a mile)

both Charles/Hillis are legit threats to run the ball as well as catching a pass. DMC can't pass block and isn't much of a threat to run so teams know he's out there to catch a pass.

give it up to DMC though ... he's best at getting blown up and not dying. He's a tough little ****er.

Not like you couldn't have both he and Charles in the backfield.
But okay.
:rolleyes:

Chiefnj2 08-17-2012 11:22 AM

As a RB Dex offers very little.

As a slot receiver he ran some nice routes last week.


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