Originally Posted by KCTitus (Post 8966383)

Weak sauce...it's not an either/or option and silly to make such a ludicrous logical jump.

The Marty years were a mirage, go back and watch the games -- many of them KC had no business winning were never in the game and pulled out a miracle KO/Punt return, etc. Pffft...it's a waste of time to argue about Marty.

He's a proven loser. Just leave him be.

Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 8966426)

All I'm saying is that they players respected him and played hard under him. It's obvious that they aren't doing that now.

I don't like the nepotism that Marty seems to demand at this stage of his career and that would definitely worry me. But Marty did get clubs to compete quickly when they were floundering before his arrival.

Personally, I'm all for burning this sucker right to the ground and getting a fresh start. After we go 1-15.

Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones (Post 8966439)

Wasn't Marty the one that consulted with Clark on the Pioli hiring? That worked out.

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8966430)

8-8 isn't the goal.

Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 8966413)

Personally I'd like to find out but also like to find out if Stanzi has anything that he can possibly offer down the road. It's time to throw him in whether or not he sucks.

Originally Posted by dallaschiefsfan (Post 8966329)

I'm not sure that you understand what Maas is suggesting. He said hire Marty as a consultant that reports directly to Clark and analyzes what's going wrong with the organization. That evaluation would result in what we all know - Pioli is out of his league and is a "system GM".

Any GM that Clark would replace Pioli with would choose the coach and they would presumably find a QB. I can't imagine a consultant would have anything to do with evaluating and choosing a QB. Despite the vitriol for Marty that some have, Marty IS a leader that men listen to and he's well known, respected and liked in the NFL world.

More importantly, Clark apparently has an affinity for Marty and will LISTEN TO HIM...whereas Clark will NOT listen to us. Do you really think Marty would come to a different conclusion than we have? Same result...I could care less who gets credit. I just want Pioli gone.

Originally Posted by Raiderhader (Post 8966546)

Until he sleeps with one of his player's girlfriends.

Originally Posted by dallaschiefsfan (Post 8966329)

I'm not sure that you understand what Maas is suggesting. He said hire Marty as a consultant that reports directly to Clark and analyzes what's going wrong with the organization.

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8966588)

How do you know he didn't use that as a motivational tool?

"You better god damn perform, or I'll **** your girlfriend."

The secret to Marty's success.

Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 8966413)

Personally I'd like to find out but also like to find out if Stanzi has anything that he can possibly offer down the road. It's time to throw him in whether or not he sucks.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 8966605)

Marty was brought in as a consultant after Carl Peterson was fired, which led to the hiring of Scott Pioli.

No thanks.

Oh, and Maas is a ****ing idiot.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 8966686)

Dude, Stanzi sucks ass.