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Who will be the Chiefs starting quarterback in 2013? (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=265612)

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9045752)

people that don't like Barkley don't like him because he's short and has a barely adequate NFL arm.

Yep. That's why he's 3rd on my list. Not exactly a guy you have to guard the whole field against.

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Originally Posted by DarthPioliSatan (Post 9045800)

Smith or Death.

That's the feeling I get from SNR too. I think he made a comment like it would be a great QB class if it weren't for Barkley and Wilson or something like that. Has the thought crossed you mind that we probably won't get him?

How much do you follow the draft? How many guys do you pick right in your mock? Even the best guys at mock drafts around here? How many do they get? How about Mayock and Kiper? How do they do?

Chances are we won't get Smith. You guys need to start finding things to like about all three QBs and hope we get one of them.

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Originally Posted by Woodsponge Chuckpants (Post 9045843)

Of COURSE we won't get Smith. This is the ****ing Chiefs, and OF COURSE I have learned to deal with both disappointment and a bunch of jackasses who over the years have shown that they don't know thier dicks from a stick.

But until then, I can and will dream that MAYBE, just MAYBE we might do something RIGHT for a ****ing change.

Food for thought (yes I know surrounding talent isn't the same) against Texas Tech and K State:

Geno 57.4% 209 yard/avg 4.8 y/a and 2TD to 2 INT

Jones 63.8%, 281.5 yards/avg 6.78 y/a and 3 TD to 1 INT

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9045780)

****...you and Billay are making me look like a dick here.

Barkley is most assuredly not Cassel. No, he doesn't stare WRs down. In fact, I've noticed that he generally goes through his progressions quite well. The only thing that gives that appearance is that his #1 read is usually open.

And c'mon, everyone gets happy feet at times. Barkley's actually appeared to be a little above average in that regard. He's certainly not Blaine Gabbert or Matt Cassel. He'll stand in to take a hit and deliver the ball.

His arm strength is no better than average, but it's an easier arm strength than Cassel's. He doesn't require the long wind-up that Cassel does to generate his average arm strength. His release is generally quick enough and repeatable enough that he can be accurate on intermediate balls and tolerable on deep(ish) passes.

He has a lot of the same strengths and weaknesses as Matt Schaub. He's a good, not great, QB prospect.

Matt Barkley is not Matt Cassel.

And if you find yourself in bed with Billay, you should really reconsider your position.

First of all **** you. You might write long paragraphs but you are just as wrong on things as I am.

Second of all as I already stated I was kidding.

Third I started the Blow4Barkley thread

Fourth Go **** yourself

If i had to pick one, I'd take Tyler Wilson.

I think Geno Smith has the highest bust factor. The more i watch him, the more i think he's fools gold.

Lots of short passes going for big gainers, he holds onto the ball waaaay too long...He has tons of upside, throws a great ball, good arm strength...but I've seen Tyler Wilson do things that he'll have to do in the NFL that i haven't seen Geno Smith do.

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 9045869)

Goddamnit Detoxing, when did the Full reerun set in? You were not like this once...

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 9045860)

Well you hadn't confessed your sins before I started typing.

Moreover, I'm not just as wrong on things as you are. I'm generally right. You aren't. For instance, your assertion that I wrote long paragraphs - those paragraphs are 4, 4 and 3 sentences long and likely somewhere in the neighborhood of 40-50 words.

At worst, they are normal length paragraphs.

Some of us have found ways to express ourselves as adults and expound upon our thoughts. This often involves using complete sentences, punctuation, and yes - the Enter key.

You can't even be a useful smartass.

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9045889)

I was referring to football takes.

Type away sweetheart.

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9045780)

****...you and Billay are making me look like a dick here.

Barkley is most assuredly not Cassel. No, he doesn't stare WRs down. In fact, I've noticed that he generally goes through his progressions quite well. The only thing that gives that appearance is that his #1 read is usually open.

And c'mon, everyone gets happy feet at times. Barkley's actually appeared to be a little above average in that regard. He's certainly not Blaine Gabbert or Matt Cassel. He'll stand in to take a hit and deliver the ball.

His arm strength is no better than average, but it's an easier arm strength than Cassel's. He doesn't require the long wind-up that Cassel does to generate his average arm strength. His release is generally quick enough and repeatable enough that he can be accurate on intermediate balls and tolerable on deep(ish) passes.

He has a lot of the same strengths and weaknesses as Matt Schaub. He's a good, not great, QB prospect.

Matt Barkley is not Matt Cassel.

And if you find yourself in bed with Billay, you should really reconsider your position.

I'm not saying Barkley is Cassel; just his flaws are VERY similar to Cassels.

I have absolutely no idea how you can say Barkley goes through his progressions. His first read is open around 75%, so he rarely ever goes through it in the first place and when he does, he completely falls apart. He forces throws even when the first read is blanketed ( much like Cassel) and if the route takes time to develop he either mistimes his throw or starts having a ****ing staring contest with his number 1 and the defender. Let's not forget how spoiled Barkley is with an awesome O-line/wide receiving core- something I doubt he will have if he's drafted as high as everyone thinks he will be.

The thing is Barkley's relies heavily on his pre-snap reads, which are usually brilliant, but, if his first read isn’t open, he begins to worry about the blitz. He hops around the pocket like a frog. If he ever feels he has held the ball too long he’ll throw off his back foot, that remind you of someone? He doesn't really excel in the fourth quarter either, which is where most of his rushed throws come from.

I can agree with you on arm strength but I'm tired of a guy with just a 'tolerable deep ball'. I want a Geno Smith deep ball.:harumph:

... And comparing Barkley to Schaub? I feel like you're really discrediting Schaub. Barkley is more of a Blaine Gabbert.

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Originally Posted by Iconic (Post 9045897)

I'm not saying Barkley is Cassel; just his flaws are VERY similar to Cassels.

I have absolutely no idea how you can say Barkley goes through his progressions. His first read is open around 75%, so he rarely ever goes through it in the first place and when he does, he completely falls apart. He forces throws even when the first read is blanketed ( much like Cassel) and if the route takes time to develop he either mistimes his throw or starts having a ****ing staring contest with his number 1 and the defender. Let's not forget how spoiled Barkley is with an awesome O-line/wide receiving core- something I doubt he will have if he's drafted as high as everyone thinks he will be.

The thing is Barkley's relies heavily on his pre-snap reads, which are usually brilliant, but, if his first read isn’t open, he begins to worry about the blitz. He hops around the pocket like a frog. If he ever feels he has held the ball too long he’ll throw off his back foot, that remind you of someone? He doesn't really excel in the fourth quarter either, which is where most of his rushed throws come from.

I can agree with you on arm strength but I'm tired of a guy with just a 'tolerable deep ball'. I want a Geno Smith deep ball.:harumph:

... And comparing Barkley to Schaub? I feel like you're really discrediting Schaub. Barkley is more of a Blaine Gabbert.

Goin' Balls Deep with Smith in 2013!@

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 9045873)

I'd take any of those guys but Wilson is the guy I question the most.

I don't like Barkley because the dude's already balding like a mother****er at what? Age 22? By the time he starts a game in the NFL he'll be more bald than Patrick ****ing Stewart.

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Originally Posted by DarthPioliSatan (Post 9045878)

Goddamnit Detoxing, when did the Full reerun set in? You were not like this once...

Meh.

I think Geno Smith has more talent and throws a better ball. I think Geno has a much higher ceiling.

But I think Geno also has more obstacles to over come when entering the NFL.