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Chief Roundup 11-06-2012 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9093505)
This is why you hire a defensive head coach and give an offensive coordinator free reign.

For example, hire a defensive coach then hire Norv as your offensive coordinator.

I would normally probably agree with this but with the probably of us drafting a 1st round QB and the need for that player to be successful we should probably get a coach that has had success with QB development. Once the QB is developed it doesn't matter nearly as much.

Sorter 11-06-2012 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9093567)
Actually, for as bad as the Browns' QBs were in 2010, they were generally throwing the ball for over 200 yards on a regular basis. They started to tighten up a lot in 2011 as they moved to Shurmur's offense and Shurmur put no trust in McCoy. Incidentally, that was the same time that Hillis started to shut down.

Hillis isn't a Bettis back that can destroy everyone in his path. He needs a little bit of a head of steam. That doesn't happen when the only thing open is a brick wall.

Totally agree

Rausch 11-06-2012 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 9093607)
I would normally probably agree with this but with the probably of us drafting a 1st round QB and the need for that player to be successful we should probably get a coach that has had success with QB development. Once the QB is developed it doesn't matter nearly as much.

This...

smittysbar 11-06-2012 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9093219)
Yeah, Peters being hurt ruined that team. I don't think a traditional QB survives behind that line though right now. Vick is a tough SOB.

This

fire_egoli 11-06-2012 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9093586)
only thing open is a brick wall? even with teams stacking the box we STILL HAVE ONE OF THE BEST OFFENSIVE LINES IN THE LEAGUE.

we have a top 10 LT and a top 5 RT. And the patchwork in the middle is even decent.

We arent some Eagles offensive line missing the best LT in game and their RT and has a bunch of other bums on it..

The fact of the matter is guys like Matt Cassel and Peyton Hillis are fools gold. Pats Tree bullshit Pioli and Daboll fools gold

winston is a top 5 RT? he's got his ass kicked all year

Rausch 11-06-2012 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by fire_egoli (Post 9093685)
winston is a top 5 RT? he's got his ass kicked all year

Lilja is also about as accurate with his snaps as Ca$$hole is his passes.

RunKC 11-06-2012 11:31 PM

Andy Reid runs a great offense that is extremely QB friendly, plus the guy knows how to find talent. Nobody in this organization right now has a clue on how to develop a QB.

And to everyone saying he doesn't run the ball, look at what LeSean McCoy did last year and what his rush offense did the year before?

Put Reid with a good DC like Ron Rivera and we're in business.

Simply Red 11-06-2012 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9093705)
Andy Reid runs a great offense that is extremely QB friendly, plus the guy knows how to find talent. Nobody in this organization right now has a clue on how to develop a QB.

And to everyone saying he doesn't run the ball, look at what LeSean McCoy did last year and what his rush offense did the year before?

Put Reid with a good DC like Ron Rivera and we're in business.

Andy Reid hates the Chiefs and he hates you.

BossChief 11-06-2012 11:42 PM

Thats my only problem with Reid.

I think he would want to hire his own DC and would try to switch and would back to a 4-3.
If Reid would be able to recognize that all this defense needs is an aggressive play caller that runs a 1 gap 3-4 base d, he could be a damn good hire.

I just dont see that happening.

New World Order 11-06-2012 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefMojo (Post 9093471)
I like Andy Reid as a coach but the man needs to remember there is such thing as running the ball. Like so many other offensive minded head coaches, he has become so tunnel vision with the pass he has neglected a important aspect of keeping defenses honest and wearing them down with the run.



Well I think Reid understands it is a passing league.

Priest31kc 11-06-2012 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by fire_egoli (Post 9093685)
winston is a top 5 RT? he's got his ass kicked all year

Oh god, here's fire egoli's daily hate on the offensive line. Ya know, one of the best parts of this shit team. LEARN HOW TO WATCH FOOTBALLZ.

RunKC 11-06-2012 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9093750)
Thats my only problem with Reid.

I think he would want to hire his own DC and would try to switch and would back to a 4-3.
If Reid would be able to recognize that all this defense needs is an aggressive play caller that runs a 1 gap 3-4 base d, he could be a damn good hire.

I just dont see that happening.

What if he agrees to keep the 3-4 and brings in a DC like Ron Rivera?

After what has happened to his defense this year and him failing to find a DC, I don't think he will have any play on what to do with a defense on his next team.

BossChief 11-06-2012 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9093796)
What if he agrees to keep the 3-4 and brings in a DC like Ron Rivera?

After what has happened to his defense this year and him failing to find a DC, I don't think he will have any play on what to do with a defense on his next team.

Bullshit. Head coaches chose their coaching staffs (except in KC under Pioli)

If he would hire Rivera or Rex Ryan (if he gets fired in NY) Id FULLY back him as the HC except if Cowher were to want the job and a guy like Gailey or Norv could be brought in to be the OC.

I really think this team NEEDS a veteran coaching staff with solid leadership qualities that holds players accountable.

New World Order 11-06-2012 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9093827)
Bullshit. Head coaches chose their coaching staffs (except in KC under Pioli)

If he would hire Rivera or Rex Ryan (if he gets fired in NY) Id FULLY back him as the HC except if Cowher were to want the job and a guy like Gailey or Norv could be brought in to be the OC.

I really think this team NEEDS a veteran coaching staff with solid leadership qualities that holds players accountable.


We need structure and discipline before anything. Cowher is just the coach to put that in order.

Chief Roundup 11-06-2012 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9093796)
What if he agrees to keep the 3-4 and brings in a DC like Ron Rivera?

After what has happened to his defense this year and him failing to find a DC, I don't think he will have any play on what to do with a defense on his next team.

You don't hire someone to do a job and then immediately start telling them what to do. If you have to do that then you don't make the hire.


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