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New World Order 11-15-2012 12:25 AM

I would take Rivers in a heartbeat

Hammock Parties 11-15-2012 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9120007)
Eli took an UDFA in Cruz and turned him into stud. Made Domenik Hixon look respectable at times. He never had a HOF RB, HOF TE and an elite WR on his roster all at the same time.

You put Eli on a team with LT, Gates, and VJ I think he trashes Philip. I guess we just have to agree to disagree I suppose.

Cruz is actually good, though.

Guys like Eddie Royal are not.

Sorter 11-15-2012 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9120171)
Cruz is actually good, though.

Guys like Eddie Royal are not.

Well yeah. To discount Eli's influence on his success is silly. Great QBs take mediocre WRs and help turn them into elite guys.

Sorter 11-15-2012 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9120171)
Cruz is actually good, though.

Guys like Eddie Royal are not.

I kid you not, someone told me he was going to be a 1,000 yd WR this year. ROFL

Easy 6 11-15-2012 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9119950)
Dude, Rivers is a better QB than Eli Manning.

The only difference is the level of talent around them.

LMAO you've gotta be sniping for fun, or drunk.

Hammock Parties 11-15-2012 12:45 AM

Look, there is a clear difference in Rivers since the talent dropoff in SD.

It's not rocket science.

The guy is a top 10 QB, period.

You can't name 10 better QBs.

Sorter 11-15-2012 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9120199)
Look, there is a clear difference in Rivers since the talent dropoff in SD.

It's not rocket science.

The guy is a top 10 QB, period.

You can't name 10 better QBs.

That isn't the argument.

Hammock Parties 11-15-2012 12:55 AM

The argument seems to be "Rivers can't lead a team to a SB."

Yes he can.

Dude can shoot the ears off a gundark at 30 yards.

Quesadilla Joe 11-15-2012 12:59 AM

I think Rivers could make Baldwin look good. When he was playing well all he would do is throw screens to LT/Sproles and jump balls to Gates and Jackson. He literally would just chuck it up and let VJ go up and get it.

Once the talent around Rivers left he started showing what he really is... a barely above average QB.

Sorter 11-15-2012 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9120206)
The argument seems to be "Rivers can't lead a team to a SB."

Yes he can.

Dude can shoot the ears off a gundark at 30 yards.

What?

Your argument was "Rivers > Manning".

Easy 6 11-15-2012 01:00 AM

Even if the skill positions were used right, rivers is just another slow death.

Manning is the reigning champ who's had a few bad games, but rivers, the big overgrown kid who always finds a way to lose... is someone you want to move ahead with?

Rivers would be the most King Carliest band-aid type signing EVER.

Hammock Parties 11-15-2012 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by scott free (Post 9120211)
Even if the skill positions were used right, rivers is just another slow death.

No he's not.

He's a legit franchise QB.

Mediocre "slow death" QBs don't have career QB ratings of 95.0.

Do you think this list is an accident?

http://i.imgur.com/NZfqh.jpg

keg in kc 11-15-2012 01:17 AM

I didn't realize Rodgers was only 28. Christ, he could keep going another 6 or 7 years at the level he's playing now.

Hammock Parties 11-15-2012 02:01 AM

Remember that chart I threw up showing Cassel's closest comparisons in NFL history?

Here are Rivers.'

http://i49.tinypic.com/2v34ls7.jpg


He's not just in good company...he's in rare, ELITE company.

And if the Chargers reassemble a decent team around him now (instead of shit dicks like Jared Gaither and Eddie Royal), he WILL win a SB.

Chris Meck 11-15-2012 02:09 AM

I'd take Norv as an OC in a heartbeat. But ONLY as an OC.


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