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Sorter 03-07-2013 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9475150)
Dorsey just can't rush the passer. Given his explosiveness in college he should have been able to, but that ability never translated. I wonder if he ever recovered from that leg injury.

Probably not. He's never looked explosive in the NFL for a full game.

FRCDFED 03-07-2013 08:33 PM

I remember that we supposedly got through steal of the draft that year.

58-4ever 03-07-2013 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by FRCDFED (Post 9475194)
I remember that we supposedly got through steal of the draft that year.

I'm not sure what the **** you are saying. :thumb:

milkman 03-07-2013 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9475150)
Dorsey just can't rush the passer. Given his explosiveness in college he should have been able to, but that ability never translated. I wonder if he ever recovered from that leg injury.

That's the reason that Boss keeps hanging onto the 1-gap NT dream.

Dorsey's initial quick explosive burst at the snap while at LSU was as disruptive as any D-Lineman in college in the last ten years.

If he still had that burst, he'd be ideal as a 1-gap nose.

But he doesn't, so it's a lost dream.

BossChief 03-07-2013 10:16 PM

Are those skills gone due to injury, or have they just been numbed after 3 years of being coached that his responsibility is to hold his ground and let the guys behind him make the play? I think if he gets a year to play in our new scheme, he will start to show very promising signs by years end.

If we are moving to a 1gap system, as has been reported, and the staff says they'd like to bring Dorsey back...they obviously think he can be effective in it.

Sorter 03-07-2013 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9475618)
Are those skills gone due to injury, or have they just been numbed after 3 years of being coached that his responsibility is to hold his ground and let the guys behind him make the play? I think if he gets a year to play in our new scheme, he will start to show very promising signs by years end.

If we are moving to a 1gap system, as has been reported, and the staff says they'd like to bring Dorsey back...they obviously think he can be effective in it.

When he played the 3 tech in subs, he was inadequate. I can't see how he'd be better playing a 0 or shade.

BossChief 03-07-2013 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9475708)
When he played the 3 tech in subs, he was inadequate. I can't see how he'd be better playing a 0 or shade.

Warren Sapp still calls the 3-4 years in Oakland his worst time in the NFL.

It's because his speed, quickness, athleticism and get off were wasted.

If we can get Glenn back on a "show me" short term deal, it could be an extremely high reward and low risk.

I doubt anyone else is willing to offer him a substantial contract at this point...it's worth the risk.

Mother****erJones 03-07-2013 10:58 PM

Im sure Glenn Dorsey will be signed tomorrow if he signs at all with us, he might wana go to Chicago on a short deal or Tampa

BossChief 03-07-2013 11:01 PM

My guess is he goes to NO.

Sorter 03-07-2013 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9475734)
Warren Sapp still calls the 3-4 years in Oakland his worst time in the NFL.

It's because his speed, quickness, athleticism and get off were wasted.

If we can get Glenn back on a "show me" short term deal, it could be an extremely high reward and low risk.

I doubt anyone else is willing to offer him a substantial contract at this point...it's worth the risk.

I don't disagree with offering Dorsey a contract; it ensures continuity and at the very least enables KC a solid run stopper. That being said, he'll never be an effective pass rusher, whether from the 0,1,2,3,4, or 5 tech. He just isn't good at it. His speed, quickness, athleticism, pass rush skills weren't wasted previously. He was given ample opportunities to show he could rush the passer from various techniques and he failed.

If you want to keep him as a 1 down player on a vet min contract to hold up against the run on 2nd down (the majority of teams throw on 1st down IIRC), that's fine. To expect him to turn into a hand-fighting, explosive, pressure machine from the 0/1 tech is entirely different.

TLO 03-07-2013 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9474124)
four years of this and you are still barking about how Dorsey is magically should be plugged in as a NT in a 34

news flash, Glenn Dorsey will never and can not be a NT in a 34. Sorry to bust your dream bubble but after 4 years you'd think these stupid magical positional switch ideas would flame out

Tim Tebow to TE!

Xanathol 03-08-2013 01:44 AM

I can't believe there are still dumbasses who don't understand what a 2 gap DL is instructed to do, much less that Dorsey did exactly as he was instructed to very, very well.

Hootie 03-08-2013 01:48 AM

I thought we fired this moron after he traded away our entire draft for Alex Smith?

BlackHelicopters 03-08-2013 07:55 AM

Heard that Dorsey was gonna retire "to spend more time with his family and finally get his degree."

BossChief 03-08-2013 08:15 AM

I don't know why he would re-sign here for cheap...didn't he void a year of his deal? I saw that we have 3.5 million in dead money this year from him...I figured that was due to a void.


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