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-King- 07-01-2013 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 9787548)
Recording it for what purpose? He had no business approaching the scene like that. Probably was told repeatedly by the cops to back the **** off and didn't listen. Good grief. I swear some of you just want to be outraged by something.

What scene did he approach? He was well outside the area. If police wanted them further away, that's why they have police tape.

Bump 07-01-2013 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 9787567)
You're either trolling, too stupid to understand how the law works, or you don't mind the police violating people's civil rights. No matter how you slice it, you're an idiot.

George Carlin had it right, we don't have rights, we have privileges. Rights cannot be taken away.

Dave Lane 07-01-2013 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9787488)
Have a doggie laying next to me right now. No way in hell I'm watching a video with that title.

Yeah I'm gonna have to leave mine for a week, no ****ing way I'm watching this shit.

CrazyPhuD 07-01-2013 11:07 PM

I was going to make a joke about cops training for the LAPD...but the reality is, once that dog came out they did what they could to avoid shooting it. You can actually see the cops trying to grab the leash which would have given them control of the dog but they couldn't reach it. The dog lunges twice and the cops back off each time on the third time that's when they shot.

Looking at another story that's a 130lb rottweiler. They can't take the risk of that dog going full attack mode trying to protect it's owner. They can't know if that dog is trained to attack/fight. A dog that size can pull a person down easy, once you're on the ground if it goes for your throat it can be game over right there.

Shitty situation, no doubt but the cops weren't malicious about it. They tried to control the dog, they tried to back off but when the dog kept snapping at them they fired. About the only thing I wish they did was after then shot it and it was struggling put it out of it's misery. The problem is A that can be misinterpreted as malice rather than mercy and B shot dogs can be saved sometimes.

'Hamas' Jenkins 07-01-2013 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9787550)
I'm ignorant as to tazers but is that safe for the dog? For lack of a better phrase "what's their electrical capacity"?

I honestly have no idea.

They are all rated at several thousand volts, but it's not the voltage that kills you, it's the amperage. Static electrical discharges have much higher voltages than AC outlets but fractions of an amp of current.

It's not going to be good for the dog, but it's a far better outcome than shooting it. If you look at other similar incidents, it seems extremely likely that the dog would have been briefly incapacitated, but otherwise fine.

Bugeater 07-01-2013 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 9787567)
You're either trolling, too stupid to understand how the law works, or you don't mind the police violating people's civil rights. Unless the man was arrested because he'd just confessed to a crime, you're an idiot.

Well then please answer my question Mr. Non-idiot. What purpose was there for him to be approaching a potentially dangerous situation and filming it?

If the asshole got shot by some stray gunfire, then you'd be blaming the police for that as well.

KevB 07-01-2013 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 9787548)
Recording it for what purpose? He had no business approaching the scene like that. Probably was told repeatedly by the cops to back the **** off and didn't listen. Good grief. I swear some of you just want to be outraged by something.

Are you serious? There were other people also recording it, including the video we all just watched 20 feet away from this guy. He stayed on the perimeter, on the outside of the police cars. The guy was getting in his car when the cops started walking toward him. You couldn't have a conversation that you'd like him to move away for his own safety? You needed to cuff him? And could they not have had some awareness that the guy's large dog was in the car with open windows and may be a threat before it got to the point that they had to shoot him?

Sorter 07-01-2013 11:10 PM

This is a situation that while violent, i wish the officer had employed the bas rutten method for dealing with medium to large size animals.

'Hamas' Jenkins 07-01-2013 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 9787563)
He turned around like he knew he was getting arrested.


What does one say to a cop to get arrested?

There are a few choice words.

'Hamas' Jenkins 07-01-2013 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9787590)
This is a situation that while violent, i wish the officer had employed the bas rutten method for dealing with medium to large size animals.

Tell Brian Urlacher who you are?

Sorter 07-01-2013 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9787585)
They are all rated at several thousand volts, but it's not the voltage that kills you, it's the amperage. Static electrical discharges have much higher voltages than AC outlets but fractions of an amp of current.

It's not going to be good for the dog, but it's a far better outcome than shooting it. If you look at other similar incidents, it seems extremely likely that the dog would have been briefly incapacitated, but otherwise fine.

Interesting. I wish this methis had been used instead.

Bump 07-01-2013 11:12 PM

Why couldn't they have sprayed it or tazed it first? Pulling out the pistol is easy mode.

The dog was being a good dog. Protecting his owner from what he perceived as bad guys. The dog just sort of jumped at the cop. I mean, even hit it with your stick

Why should killing be the first option?

notorious 07-01-2013 11:13 PM

I want to know what they charged the guy with.

-King- 07-01-2013 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 9787586)
Well then please answer my question Mr. Non-idiot. What purpose was there for him to be approaching a potentially dangerous situation and filming it?

If the asshole got shot by some stray gunfire, then you'd be blaming the police for that as well.

Once again, if the police didn't want people that close, they have police tape just for that specific purpose.

Prison Bitch 07-01-2013 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Bump (Post 9787504)
I have a dog, a big black lab. If this shit ever happened, I don't know what I would do. She is my best friend and honestly, the only friend I could ever trust.

I almost want to cry watching that shit.

I like our family dog too, but are you ok man? You have nobody in life you'd trust? Really?


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