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jd1020 08-17-2013 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by TrueFanDave (Post 9894262)
Just admit you are wrong and move on.
Why would I admit I'm wrong when the rulebook agrees with me? Or are we going to act like the officials are right 100% of the time and know the rulebook from front to back?

Chiefless 08-17-2013 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9894230)
Not really.

The rule states that if a player falls to the ground and makes no effort to advance the ball the play is dead.

McCluster fell to the ground and made no effort to advance the ball. Play dead.

It's either an incomplete pass or a catch and down by virtue of that rule.
No. it's either an incomplete pass or a fumbled lateral. He did not maintain control through the entire act of catching the ball. if it was thrown backwards, that makes it a live ball. But,giving himself up is not what happened.

BigMeatballDave 08-17-2013 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9894265)
Why would I admit I'm wrong when the rulebook agrees with me? Or are we going to act like the officials are right 100% of the time and know the rulebook from front to back?
Falling to the ground like Dex does in that video is not 'giving up'.

Kneeling or Sliding feet first is.

jd1020 08-17-2013 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Chiefless (Post 9894267)
No. it's either an incomplete pass or a fumbled lateral. He did not maintain control through the entire act of catching the ball. if it was thrown backwards, that makes it a live ball. But,giving himself up is not what happened.
A fumbled lateral?

WTF? ROFLROFLROFL

Go back to lurking.

jd1020 08-17-2013 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by TrueFanDave (Post 9894270)
Falling to the ground like Dex does in that video is not 'giving up'.

Kneeling or Sliding feet first is.
Now we are making up definitions?

BigMeatballDave 08-17-2013 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9894274)
Now we are making up definitions?
ROFL Now you're just being intentionally obtuse.

jd1020 08-17-2013 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by TrueFanDave (Post 9894278)
ROFL Now you're just being intentionally obtuse.
Kneeling or sliding... the new "falling" ROFL

BigMeatballDave 08-17-2013 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9894279)
Kneeling or sliding... the new "falling" ROFL
Do you know what a QB does to avoid being hit while running in open field?

jd1020 08-17-2013 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by TrueFanDave (Post 9894284)
Do you know what a QB does to avoid being hit while running in open field?
Let me guess... He falls?

BigMeatballDave 08-17-2013 01:55 PM
<iframe width="420" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/ji3iVpsel3I" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Watch Moss after the catch.

jd1020 08-17-2013 01:55 PM
Watch out for those base stealers falling into second.

BigMeatballDave 08-17-2013 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9894287)
Let me guess... He falls?
Sliding feet first for a QB is them giving up.

They are immediately called down when they begin the slide.

jd1020 08-17-2013 01:57 PM
Let me go fall on the ground to say a prayer.

Chiefless 08-17-2013 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9894272)
A fumbled lateral?

WTF? ROFLROFLROFL

Go back to lurking.
You do realize that a backwards pass is a lateral, right?

jd1020 08-17-2013 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Chiefless (Post 9894311)
You do realize that a backwards pass is a lateral, right?
I know exactly what a lateral is.

I'm sure we'd all like to hear about how McCluster lateraled the ball.


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