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DaWolf 09-24-2013 04:36 PM

I'm still in shock that a draft was deemed so weak that 3 of the top 4 picks were right tackles...

ReynardMuldrake 09-24-2013 04:36 PM

Also, people love small sample sizes around here. Nobody has the patience for the big picture.

Mr. Laz 09-24-2013 04:39 PM

new coaching
new system
new group of Oline
young Oline
inexperience Oline

:shrug:

Stalker 09-24-2013 04:46 PM

3-0....how bad can our rookie RT be ?????

Brock 09-24-2013 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Stalker (Post 10016123)
3-0....how bad can our rookie RT be ?????

Is this a joke? Have you seen the qb running for his life lately?

DaneMcCloud 09-24-2013 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ReynardMuldrake (Post 10016096)
It's mostly bad conditioning.

This is absolutely false.

It's the inexperience of Allen, Hudson and Fisher along with technique and chemistry issues.

This line will get better over the course of the season but it has absolutely nothing to do with conditioning.

DaneMcCloud 09-24-2013 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DaWolf (Post 10016098)
I'm still in shock that a draft was deemed so weak that 3 of the top 4 picks were right tackles...

Well, look at the Top Ten or Twelve guys drafted this year. No one is impressing.

Mingo and Jordan have like 4 tackles and one sack each. The tackles are struggling. Tavon Austin is struggling. Cooper is out for the year. DJ Haden is crap.

The only guys, IMO, out of the top 15 or so guys that I would swap for Fisher, at this point, are Sheldon Richardson, Lotuleili and possibly Vacarro.

O.city 09-24-2013 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 10016152)
Well, look at the Top Ten or Twelve guys drafted this year. No one is impressing.

Mingo and Jordan have like 4 tackles and one sack each. The tackles are struggling. Tavon Austin is struggling. Cooper is out for the year. DJ Haden is crap.

The only guys, IMO, out of the top 15 or so guys that I would swap for Fisher, at this point, are Sheldon Richardson, Lotuleili and possibly Vacarro.

KHAN!!!!!:deevee:

Pablo 09-24-2013 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stalker (Post 10016123)
3-0....how bad can our rookie RT be ?????

You've probably watched him play, huh?

lcarus 09-24-2013 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10015799)
I think he deserves a job in front office for being the smartest guy in the room :D

That dude was a Chiefs fan like most of us here. Just stand there and roll with the punches. All you can do really.

That said, Fisher will get better with time. I hope...

DaneMcCloud 09-24-2013 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 10016184)
That said, Fisher will get better with time. I hope...

Well, he can't exactly regress, so there's that.

RealSNR 09-24-2013 05:23 PM

I would have much rather had Sheldon Richardson over Eric Fisher. But again, the problem there would have been getting him on the field. I have no idea if he's doing well for the Jets this year or not, but you have a KC team that restructured Jackson to basically pay him peanuts for the final year of his contract and who had just signed Mike DeVito to a starter's deal.

For his rookie season anyway, Sheldon at best would be seeing the field through the line rotation, and would have only started in the case of injury. It also makes the defensive line a strong permanent fixture for the next 3-4 seasons, or until DeVito's wheels fall off. We would be getting better RT play for this season, but it would also force our hand in terms of Albert's contract.

But hey, that's pretty much going to happen anyway. I think Dorsey surely must already see that the Chiefs are a way better football team with Branden Albert than without. Albert's probably going to gain some more ground on a longterm deal negotiation with Dorsey than he got last offseason.

Mr. Laz 09-24-2013 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 10016198)
Well, he can't exactly regress, so there's that.

that's it, tempt fate by saying shit like 'it can't get worse'


Fisher isn't that bad ... he's just not good enough right now

Deberg_1990 09-24-2013 05:24 PM

Tony Mandarich part II

DaneMcCloud 09-24-2013 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 10016199)
I would have much rather had Sheldon Richardson over Eric Fisher. But again, the problem there would have been getting him on the field. I have no idea if he's doing well for the Jets this year or not, but you have a KC team that restructured Jackson to basically pay him peanuts for the final year of his contract and who had just signed Mike DeVito to a starter's deal.

For his rookie season anyway, Sheldon at best would be seeing the field through the line rotation, and would have only started in the case of injury. It also makes the defensive line a strong permanent fixture for the next 3-4 seasons, or until DeVito's wheels fall off. We would be getting better RT play for this season, but it would also force our hand in terms of Albert's contract.

But hey, that's pretty much going to happen anyway. I think Dorsey surely must already see that the Chiefs are a way better football team with Branden Albert than without.

Lotuleili is playing well, as is Vacarro.

Vacarro and Berry would have been sick.

And Poe-Richardson and/or Poe-Lotuleili wouldn't be too far behind.


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