Here's the last 15 Super Bowl Champions and where they ranked in yards per completion:

Flacco #11
Eli #3
Rodgers #4
Brees #9
Roethlisberger #11
Eli #18
Peyton #8
Roethlisberger #1
Brady #5
Brady #17
Johnson #20
Brady #23
Dilfer #24
Warner #3
Elway #4

Alex has to make a quantum leap next year (it's not happening this year). Period. Especially given the trend over the last 10 years. He needs to at least get to an average YPC.

Throw the ball down the field. It wins games.

He didn't have fumbling issues in college. He just wasn't used to securing the ball early in his carry, at Wisconsin he could make it 5 yards before he was touched once.

Whatever. Dude sucks anyway. He's averaging like 3 YPC.

Moreno ... since the Dallas game is averaging 15 carries and almost 6 receptions a game - with 6 total TDs in that stretch. It pains me to say it, but he has played well. I still don't trust him though.

Moreno has about 257 fewer yards on 57 less touches with 1 more TD than Charles on the season, and considering Moreno's history, that's a pleasant surprise.

123 carries / 521 yds / 8 TD (55% of total team rushing yds)
37 rec / 336 yards / 1 TD (10% of total team receiving yds)

170 carries / 725 yards / 6 TD (68% of total team rushing yds)
47 rec / 389 yards / 2 TD (20% of total team receiving yds)

Both are avg about 4.2 per rush and Moreno has about a yard more per reception. Lots of ways to poke at the numbers, but Denver's #1 priority on defense is to focus in on and contain Charles. It's not easy by any means, but it can be done.

Charles has 3 games where he's rushed for over 90 yards (only 1 over 100). And, as a receiver, he has 3 games over 50 yds receiving.

In 8 games, Charles has combined for over 100 total yards - he's the offense, bottom line... stop him and you can defeat the Chiefs in a boring low scoring game.

Still way too early to throw the towel in on Ball imo. He's a rookie and will continue to learn and adjust to the speed of NFL defenses. Granted he hasn't had a substantial amount of carries to say he has made the necessary corrections but only time will tell. How many Chief fans would have thought that Poe would be the beast he has been this year, based off last year's performance?

Who cares about college? Totally different ballgame and the NFL sidelines are littered with guys that were once phenoms but now can't compete at a starting level.

Not to mention, Charles is KC's main offensive weapon...

Agreed. Like Ball but really, really wish Denver would have selected Lacy.:banghead:

I'm sure you watched a TON of Badger football, right? :rolleyes:

I'm not saying he'll always sucks; I'm just saying he's not scaring anybody but you guys right now.

.. Which makes it a lot easier to key on him. Moreno is about the 6th worry a team is going to have when facing the Broncos. He has more TDs because he plays on a much, much, much, much more prolific offense and that's the only reason.

:D Likely just a quick stat search.

Hell, if we were going by college production - both Hillman and Ball should be an unbelievable duo based on their last few college seasons, hell 2011 was awesome for both. But, it's not college.

Not only have Hillman and Ball has ball security issues, they can't be trusted in pass protection and aren't as good of hands out of the backfield. For as suck ass as Moreno is, he's elevated his play a bit this season. He still sucks but at least he's complete.

So over the last 15 years the average YPC for SB winners ranked 11th and you believe that is the dispositive figure? That's the one that determines championships?

Let's look at the same list by YPA rather than YPC:

Elway - #5
Warner - #1
Dilfer - #26
Brady - #12
Johnson - #5
Brady - #8
Brady - #9
Ben - #1
Peyton - #4
Eli - #26
Ben - #17
Brees - #3
Rodgers - #2
Eli - #4
Flacco - #14

The average rank for SB winners by Yards per attempt? 9th.

So if anything, being ranked highly by YPA is even more important in determining who a SB winner is.

No, "THROW IT DEEP!!!!!" is not 'what wins games'. There are a myriad of ways to win games in this league and efficient passing that yields a high YPA is equally effective.

The problem isn't that Smith's not bombing away. The problem is he's not making the 10-12 yard throws that will keep drives alive and allow Reid to run the offense he wants to run.

Smith's nature fits Reid's plan fairly well. However, this bailing out of the pocket bullshit he's doing does not.

Aren't Smith's YPC and YPA both abysmal?

Alex is equally pathetic in YPA so I'm not sure what your point is.

We need a more productive passing game, by a large margin.

And I am not talking about deep balls. Alex needs to hit those 15-25-yard throws consistently for us to have a chance.