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DJJasonp 01-21-2014 08:02 PM

It might have made a slight difference if the poll were Super Bowl MVP or HOF.

WOnder how Larry Brown, Desmond Howard, Deion Branch, Santonio Holmes, Doug Williams, and Mark Rypien think?

Rain Man 01-21-2014 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 10386203)
Yeah, but probably not. Every year 50-some guys get a SB ring. Only a few will get into the HOF.

I'd bet no HOFer without a SB win would trade careers with a bench-warmer who happened to be on a SB winner.


That's a good way to put it. Every year you have 50+ Super Bowl rings issued and 4 to 7 HoF rings issued.

Johnny Vegas 01-21-2014 09:03 PM

winning the Super Bowl gets you in the Hall a hell of a lot easier.

Rasputin 01-21-2014 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 10384968)
Speaking of Dilfer, anybody else tired of him trying to make "Dilfer's dimes" a thing?



He couldn't ever make any of them throws so I don't know why he shows them off?

Get over it Dilfraud.

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-21-2014 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Ragged Robin (Post 10386172)
You play for championships. Period. If you do that well enough then hopefully the HOF will follow suit. I doubt a single person in the HOF would admit otherwise..

"Mr. Marino, would you trade your career for Jason Garrett's?"

ClevelandBronco 01-21-2014 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 10386106)
According to the votes, this is a lot closer of a poll than I thought it would be at this point.


Some of you would rather be a third stringer on a Super Bowl team with a ring than in an Elite club of the greatest of all time... mind boggling.

I'd want to be the first third stringer in the Hall.

Reach for the stars, man.

ClevelandBronco 01-21-2014 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 10386133)
I would take the HOF career over the SB, no question--the whole SB bench warmer vs Dan Marino thing seems like a no-brainer.

But I think that maybe the people that chose the SB might be better people than us selfish HOFers. Or not smart enough to see the long-term benefits of the HOF career vs. one-time glory that they may not even have played a big part in. One of the two. But they're probably nicer people.

There's no HOF in TEAM.

There's no H. There's an A. No Ls. No Os or Fs, nor Fs again. There is an A, an M and an E.

So no HOF in TEAM, but 3/4 of TEAM is in HALL OF FAME, which seems like too many guys, really.

Come to think of it, there's not much SUPER BOWL in TEAM either.

BWillie 01-22-2014 03:38 AM

Hall of Fame, and it's not even close.

AussieChiefsFan 01-22-2014 03:45 AM

If I was a 1st stringer I think I'd rather have the Super Bowl win. Being part of that would be awesome.

If it was between say, a SB win as a 3rd stringer or a HOF career, I'd go with the HOF.

crazycoffey 01-22-2014 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 10384931)
HoF is more exclusive. I'd prefer both, but if I had to pick one I'd go with the Hall of Fame. There is no I in Super Bowl.

This,

I've always hated the "Dan Marino sucks cause he never won the Super Bowl" arguement. Like I've hated the "Jim Kelly is a better QB than Marino because of the rings" or any QB because of the rings, arguements.

It is a team game, the best player at any position could win nothing if the team doesn't win. I hate team accolades contributing to individual awards. It should be nothing but a separator from similar stats, not the first gauge in measuring success.

crazycoffey 01-22-2014 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by crazycoffey (Post 10386703)
This,

I've always hated the "Dan Marino sucks cause he never won the Super Bowl" arguement. Like I've hated the "Jim Kelly is a better QB than Marino because of the rings" or any QB because of the rings, arguements.

It is a team game, the best player at any position could win nothing if the team doesn't win. I hate team accolades contributing to individual awards. It should be nothing but a separator from similar stats, not the first gauge in measuring success.

Case in point, Brady won more SBs (not lately) but if you think Brady is a better QB than Payton, you're a slave to peter king and/or espn. If you think elway or Kelly were better QBs than Marino, your and idiot.

crazycoffey 01-22-2014 04:01 AM

If you watched Jim Kelly play and thought he was a better QB than Marino Aikman or Elway then I don't care to hear your football takes.

Rausch 01-22-2014 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by crazycoffey (Post 10386704)
Case in point, Brady won more SBs (not lately) but if you think Brady is a better QB than Payton, you're a slave to peter king and/or espn. If you think elway or Kelly were better QBs than Marino, your and idiot.

Brady was and is better than Payed-a-Ton because in big games he was clutch. When his team needed pts to win he drove his team down the field and got them.

Payed-a-ton not only lost big games but many were lost because of him and his poor play.

Rausch 01-22-2014 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by crazycoffey (Post 10386706)
If you watched Jim Kelly play and thought he was a better QB than Marino Aikman or Elway then I don't care to hear your football takes.

Kelly and Manning are more similar than you'd like to think...

crazycoffey 01-22-2014 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 10386712)
Kelly and Manning are more similar than you'd like to think...

Respectfully disagree. I've seen both play, Kelly was more product of offense in a run oriented era, manning is an OC on the field. If manning had Thurman Thomas and that O omg with the bills D, he would have been crowned god.

It's a team game. Should have more weight in deciding greatness than just stats or rings.


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