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BryanBusby 02-01-2014 08:09 PM

Wouldn't surprise me if Blob Gretz has his ****ing hands allover this. It took someone else taking over the campaign to get Derrick Thomas in the HoF finally, because he was such a colossal **** up.

Big Poppa Payne 02-01-2014 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 10406770)
It's mostly winning Super Bowls. Very good players with Super Bowl hardware will have an advantage over very good players without.

Only 3 of the 7 have a Super Bowl ring.

stevieray 02-01-2014 08:23 PM

wow, that's a pretty weak class.

tk13 02-01-2014 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by npayne1978 (Post 10406780)
Only 3 of the 7 have a Super Bowl ring.

Yeah, but they did all play in at least one... I think.

Deberg_1990 02-01-2014 08:29 PM

I don't get the Walter Jones love? He was good.....but great? First ballot great??

Mojo Jojo 02-01-2014 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 10406772)
Wouldn't surprise me if Blob Gretz has his ****ing hands allover this. It took someone else taking over the campaign to get Derrick Thomas in the HoF finally, because he was such a colossal **** up.

Not positive, but I think Covitz that handles that now. I know he is the KC voter on the committee.

Pepe Silvia 02-01-2014 08:36 PM

Aeneas Williams was good but not even close to HOF good, this is a joke.

tk13 02-01-2014 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 10406794)
I don't get the Walter Jones love? He was good.....but great? First ballot great??

He was pretty great. He's a HOF'er. What stinks is he's a first ballot and Roaf wasn't.

I think people are knocking these guys because some of them played in lesser known markets... which is the same thing probably hurting Shields. Jones might be the best player in this class.

Deberg_1990 02-01-2014 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 10406803)
He was pretty great. He's a HOF'er. What stinks is he's a first ballot and Roaf wasn't.

I think people are knocking these guys because some of them played in lesser known markets... which is the same thing probably hurting Shields. Jones might be the best player in this class.

Oh, I know why Walter Jone is so highly regarded. Shaun Alexander.

Big Poppa Payne 02-01-2014 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 10406803)
He was pretty great. He's a HOF'er. What stinks is he's a first ballot and Roaf wasn't.

I think people are knocking these guys because some of them played in lesser known markets... which is the same thing probably hurting Shields. Jones might be the best player in this class.

And Roaf still may not be in if Jason Whitlock didn't go on a personal mission to let everyone know he should be there.

tk13 02-01-2014 08:42 PM

Walter Jones played 12 years, 180 games. He helped make Shaun Alexander and Steve Hutchinson a lot of money.

Over his entire 180 game career... he allowed a total of 23 sacks, and was called for holding nine times. Nine.

GloryDayz 02-01-2014 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 10406614)
Get the Chiefs in the Superbowl.


That's what it will take.

This.


Oh and, LMAOLMAOLMAO

Big Poppa Payne 02-01-2014 08:47 PM

Charles Tillman might be my new favorite player after that.

gblowfish 02-01-2014 09:19 PM

Ray Guy was put in by the Seniors Committee. If we go back and look at the stats, I'll bet Jerrell Wilson's stats are almost if not as good as Guy's.

Rain Man 02-01-2014 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 10406659)

Didn't someone say or a Peter King maybe that there was another punter from that era that had better stats than Ray Guy?


Guy played 14 seasons, averaging 42.4 gross. We don't know net. His best season was a 45.3 gross, and that was his only season above 44.0.

Jerrell Wilson played 16 seasons, averaging 43.0 gross. We don't know net. His best season was a 45.5 gross, and he had 7 seasons averaging more than 44.0.

Dave Lewis was another guy who was very good at his peak, but he had a very short career (with the Bengals). He only played 4 seasons, with a career 43.7 gross. His best season was a 46.2, and he had 2 seasons above 44.0.


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