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Deberg_1990 04-05-2014 10:16 AM

Most of the guys we let walk were Pioli picks.......and a lot of guys around here thought Albert was overrated. Not sure why they didn't attempt to keep Schwarz?

Chief Roundup 04-05-2014 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10540812)
So you agree with him.

NO not at all. That is not the ONLY reason they went out and got Smith. They went out and got Smith because it helped the team the most in many different ways.

TRR 04-05-2014 10:17 AM

Hard not to agree with this rating. Although I could care less about the loss of Tyson Jackson. Not too broken up about the loss of Albert either. When he is healthy and in playing shape, he is a very good LT. That seemed to rarely happen. The loss(es) at guard will sting. Schwartz played well and I didn't believe Asamoah to be as bad as some here thought. Would have loved to see KC bring one of them back in. McCluster made a lot of big plays last year, and won't be as easy to replace as some think IMO. He became Smith's go-to on 3rd downs and had a nice season as a punt returner. A good locker-room guy as well from all accounts. With a lack of threats on offense already, it was tough to see him walk. DeSean Jackson or Emmanuel Sanders would have replaced Dex with ease...but did not happen.

I still believe there are some quality FA's left to be had. It would be interesting to see what a KC offense would like if a Miles Austin or Sidney Rice and Jermichael Finley (question marks I know) were added before the draft.

You also have to wonder why no contracts were or have been restructured to provide more cap room. Were the players even asked to shift some money around? Are they unwilling to help given the past few years? Interesting to say the least.

duncan_idaho 04-05-2014 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by TRR (Post 10540830)
Hard not to agree with this rating. Although I could care less about the loss of Tyson Jackson. Not too broken up about the loss of Albert either. When he is healthy and in playing shape, he is a very good LT. That seemed to rarely happen. The loss(es) at guard will sting. Schwartz played well and I didn't believe Asamoah to be as bad as some here thought. Would have loved to see KC bring one of them back in. McCluster made a lot of big plays last year, and won't be as easy to replace as some think IMO. He became Smith's go-to on 3rd downs and had a nice season as a punt returner. A good locker-room guy as well from all accounts. With a lack of threats on offense already, it was tough to see him walk. DeSean Jackson or Emmanuel Sanders would have replaced Dex with ease...but did not happen.

I still believe there are some quality FA's left to be had. It would be interesting to see what a KC offense would like if a Miles Austin or Sidney Rice and Jermichael Finley (question marks I know) were added before the draft.

You also have to wonder why no contracts were or have been restructured to provide more cap room. Were the players even asked to shift some money around? Are they unwilling to help given the past few years? Interesting to say the least.

It's not just the talent drain that is concerning. It's that they're apparently relying entirely on the draft and bottom barrel free agents to fill those spots.

It's hard to imagine 2014 upgrades at all of those spots that needed upgrades relying on that formula.

TRR 04-05-2014 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10540833)
It's not just the talent drain that is concerning. It's that they're apparently relying entirely on the draft and bottom barrel free agents to fill those spots.

It's hard to imagine 2014 upgrades at all of those spots that needed upgrades relying on that formula.

Agreed. I know they had some success last year with scrap heap guys like Sean McGrath, Ron Parker, Geoff Schwartz, Q Demps etc. They also had some crafty moves that paid off like Hussain Abdullah. To rely upon that to happen every year or even this year will be tough.

Vance Walker was a solid pickup. I don't mind the depth signing of Chris Owens either. Maybe Dressler is that "crafty move" this year? Too many question marks though in my opinion.

Edit: I guess you can assume Dorsey/Reid are relying on guys like Travis Kelce, Sanders Commings, AJ Jenkins, Marcus Cooper, Mike Catapano, Nico Johnson, Rishaw Johnson, and Eric Kush to take gigantic steps this coming season.

thebrad84 04-05-2014 10:42 AM

It seems more than obvious that the Hunt's don't care about making a superbowl run. I think Peterson tried to make it happen with the Vermeil run to give Lamar a superbowl before he died, but sans that attempt, it seems obvious that the Hunt's just see the Chief's as an investment that they are getting a great return for. They know if they keep this team at 9-7, give or take, the fans will continue to pay the absurd amount of money to fill the stadium every home game.

keg in kc 04-05-2014 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 10540730)
AJ Jenkins.
3rd season.

He's a possibility, sure.

I still think there's a possibility with Hemingway, too. Being a Michigan homer and all. :)

But one or the other turning into a player as valuable as DeSean Jackson at this point would be a pretty big surprise, although nothing's impossible.

I probably should add that while I did agree with the original sentiment about the time it takes receivers to develop, I will also acknowledge that this does have the potential to be a really great class of receivers.

Messier 04-05-2014 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by thebrad84 (Post 10540854)
It seems more than obvious that the Hunt's don't care about making a superbowl run. I think Peterson tried to make it happen with the Vermeil run to give Lamar a superbowl before he died, but sans that attempt, it seems obvious that the Hunt's just see the Chief's as an investment that they are getting a great return for. They know if they keep this team at 9-7, give or take, the fans will continue to pay the absurd amount of money to fill the stadium every home game.

Come on.

Red Beans 04-05-2014 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by thebrad84 (Post 10540854)
It seems more than obvious that the Hunt's don't care about making a superbowl run. I think Peterson tried to make it happen with the Vermeil run to give Lamar a superbowl before he died, but sans that attempt, it seems obvious that the Hunt's just see the Chief's as an investment that they are getting a great return for. They know if they keep this team at 9-7, give or take, the fans will continue to pay the absurd amount of money to fill the stadium every home game.

Yes. Because winning a Super Bowl wouldn't significantly increase revenue in the slightest. JFC you are ****ing dense.

salame 04-05-2014 10:58 AM

It's a fair grade
chuefs are ****ed

In58men 04-05-2014 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by salame (Post 10540872)
It's a fair grade
chuefs are ****ed

Yep, this didn't come to me as a shocker. We did horrible. We basically lost our whole team lol. Good thing we have Alex Smith he doesn't need help ROFL

In58men 04-05-2014 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by salame (Post 10540872)
It's a fair grade
chuefs are ****ed

Yep, this didn't come to me as a shocker. We did horrible. We basically lost our whole team lol. Good thing we have Alex Smith he doesn't need help ROFL

Trivers 04-05-2014 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 10540768)
We lost Albert, who we all knew we'd lose for the last 2 years, and some guys we won't miss. I don't get all the bitching about this, I really don't.

We didn't sign big name free agents? For every Brees there's 500 Deion Branch's. Free agency is fools gold, but it is fun to bitch.


Amen

Simply Red 04-05-2014 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 10540656)
Gas on the Fire: Shutdown Corner Gives Chiefs "F" in FA.



http://i.imgur.com/szFp9ce.jpg

Mr. Laz 04-05-2014 11:19 AM

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Gas on the Fire: Shutdown Corner Gives Chiefs "F" in FA.
Yep



For whatever reason, we just punted. :sulk:


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