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Whosurdaddy 05-10-2014 05:14 PM

I hope we keep Daniels, because he reminds me of Chiefsplanet always doing this in the preseason.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdwchohlMjI

TEX 05-10-2014 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 10619900)
Who goes?

Bray or Daniels. :(

Bray

Simply Red 05-10-2014 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by CapsLockKey (Post 10620265)
Does it matter? Neither are very good.

lol

ILChief 05-10-2014 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10620883)
One of them is.

They won't go into the season with both of them. No way.

They've been pretty conservative with a lot of moves so far, they're going to have a vet #2.

Chase Daniel has started one game in the NFL. It's not like he has this wealth of experience

KChiefs1 05-10-2014 09:26 PM

The battle is between Bray & Murray.

htismaqe 05-10-2014 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 10622130)
Chase Daniel has started one game in the NFL. It's not like he has this wealth of experience

He has a ton of experience carrying a clipboard.

They're not going to go into the season with Bray and Murray as the backups.

Just can't see it.

mcaj22 05-10-2014 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10622175)
He has a ton of experience carrying a clipboard.

They're not going to go into the season with Bray and Murray as the backups.

Just can't see it.

Why not? Andy Reid has done it before (go into the season with an inexperienced #2) a couple times.

Most recently was Vick and Foles as his 2

htismaqe 05-10-2014 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 10622223)
Why not? Andy Reid has done it before (go into the season with an inexperienced #2) a couple times.

Most recently was Vick and Foles as his 2

Well, you've got me there. He did do it that time.

How many other times has he done it that you can remember? I don't have THAT good of a memory about stuff like that...

mcaj22 05-10-2014 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10622229)
Well, you've got me there. He did do it that time.

How many other times has he done it that you can remember? I don't have THAT good of a memory about stuff like that...

this one doesn't count because he was expected to start but he did it in 1999 with McNabb

McNabb was a rookie (Murray)
Detmer had 1 year in the league (Bray)
Pederson was 31 years old and started the season (Smith)

obviously the parameters are different (Murray being a 5th round pick, McNabb being a first rounder) but he has carried inexperience as his #2 before.

htismaqe 05-10-2014 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 10622242)
this one doesn't count because he was expected to start but he did it in 1999 with McNabb

McNabb was a rookie (Murray)
Detmer had 1 year in the league (Bray)
Pederson was 31 years old and started the season (Smith)

obviously the parameters are different (Murray being a 5th round pick, McNabb being a first rounder) but he has carried inexperience as his #2 before.

Yeah, that's a little different situation as far as the QBs.

But the one thing that has in common with now? It was early in his tenure.

Maybe he will do it. I'm still skeptical but there's certainly at least some precedent there...

mcaj22 05-10-2014 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10622251)
Yeah, that's a little different situation as far as the QBs.

But the one thing that has in common with now? It was early in his tenure.

Maybe he will do it. I'm still skeptical but there's certainly at least some precedent there...

Yea I don't think he's afraid to go with inexperience as his #2. The question is are Murray/Bray more of the mold of Detmer/Feeley for Reid or are they a potential homerun like Foles. That's the question. If they are just young guys that are going to backup Smith for 5/6 years and be the next Detmer/Feeley then who cares.

Reerun_KC 05-10-2014 10:07 PM

How about Daniels and Billy Ray both go?

htismaqe 05-10-2014 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 10622255)
Yea I don't think he's afraid to go with inexperience as his #2. The question is are Murray/Bray more of the mold of Detmer/Feeley for Reid or are they a potential homerun like Foles. That's the question. If they are just young guys that are going to backup Smith for 5/6 years and be the next Detmer/Feeley then who cares.

If it were up to me, I'd pencil Murray in at the #2 spot right now.

I think he's "NFL ready" moreso than Bray. Bray is your developmental guy.

Murray needs development, but not as much as Bray.

The main reason I'd do it is because Daniel is just horribly overcompensated. I know I keep saying "awful" but it just is. Terrible.

Exoter175 05-10-2014 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10622265)
If it were up to me, I'd pencil Murray in at the #2 spot right now.

I think he's "NFL ready" moreso than Bray. Bray is your developmental guy.

Murray needs development, but not as much as Bray.

The main reason I'd do it is because Daniel is just horribly overcompensated. I know I keep saying "awful" but it just is. Terrible.

Hey look, we're on the same page with Daniel. LMAO

mcaj22 05-10-2014 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10622265)
If it were up to me, I'd pencil Murray in at the #2 spot right now.

I think he's "NFL ready" moreso than Bray. Bray is your developmental guy.

Murray needs development, but not as much as Bray.

The main reason I'd do it is because Daniel is just horribly overcompensated. I know I keep saying "awful" but it just is. Terrible.

even if they keep Daniel, Murray will beat him out for the #2. So you'd be paying that contract for a #3. That's how I justify not keeping him. If Smith gets hurt and you choose to want to put in Murray anyway, then there's no point in keeping Daniel. Murray can play from day 1, that's the argument. So you might as well have the development guy as the #3 and not the career clipboard holder eating cap space.


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