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keg in kc 12-17-2014 07:45 PM

If I understand what I'm reading now the US government is confirming it was North Korean government hackers.

So we're talking about an actual nation-state with nuclear weapons led by a complete whackjob, not some ethereal terrorist network trying.

Makes me wonder if maybe Sony Pictures itself hasn't been getting some advice/pressure from the US state department.

unlurking 12-17-2014 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 11199349)
If im a business owner, I probably dont risk it all for a Seth Rogen movie.

I would.

And I'd throw a massive party to boot.

Believing NK can strike a bunch of movie theaters with physical terrorist attacks is not something people in this country would normally be afraid of. We've been conditioned to fear this stuff. It's bullshit.

eDave 12-17-2014 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by unlurking (Post 11199346)
I love the "simply suggested" it idea.

I wonder if I can call in a bomb threat and use that as a defense in court.

"Well I simply suggested they not have a test today. They made the choice to close the school, not me."

Solid point. I change my "simply suggested" to "bullied" or "blackmailed". We can be pussies, or show the movie and FU to NK. You don't even believe they have the capability to launch attacks on theaters.

Look man, I get it. But if the hackers went in and destroyed every known copy of the film, preventing it from ever being seen, then I would agree with you that a foreign entity suppressed our rights.

unlurking 12-17-2014 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 11199355)
If I understand what I'm reading now the US government is confirming it was North Korean government hackers.

So we're talking about an actual nation-state with nuclear weapons led by a complete whackjob, not some ethereal terrorist network trying.

Makes me wonder if maybe Sony Pictures itself hasn't been getting some advice/pressure from the US state department.

They can't launch a competent attack on their nemesis South Korea, why the **** would we worry?!

unlurking 12-17-2014 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by eDave (Post 11199361)
Solid point. I change my "simply suggested" to "bullied" or "blackmailed". We can be pussies, or show the movie and FU to NK. You don't even believe they have the capability to launch attacks on theaters.

Look man, I get it. But if the hackers went in and destroyed every known copy of the film, preventing it from ever being seen, then I would agree with you that a foreign entity suppressed our rights.

OK, semantics.

My point is that we are ALLOWING a foreign government to censor our media. Of course we don't have to allow that to happen, but the fact that this hasn't spiked outrage in this country really shows just how far we've fallen.

I apologize if my comments are too aggressive. Not meaning to be a dick, just pissed.

Wonder if we'll get a new ePATRIOT Act out of all this. :(

DaneMcCloud 12-17-2014 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by eDave (Post 11199291)
But isn't that what the trailer is for? All I saw in it was really stupid, adolescent humor and I dismissed it accordingly. If there is more to it, why not trail that stuff too?

Eh, I am giving too many craps. Thanks Dane. I was really just interested on your take.

Dave, I really wish I could answer your question.

The truth is, I have no idea why trailers are cut as they are these days. Some seem to give away the entire plot, some seem vague and some just don't represent the film at all.

It's definitely a mystery.

keg in kc 12-17-2014 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by unlurking (Post 11199365)
They can't launch a competent attack on their nemesis South Korea, why the **** would we worry?!

We (by 'we' i mean the state department) seem to worry about everything else when it comes to terrorism, so why not this...

eDave 12-17-2014 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by unlurking (Post 11199371)
OK, semantics.

My point is that we are ALLOWING a foreign government to censor our media. Of course we don't have to allow that to happen, but the fact that this hasn't spiked outrage in this country really shows just how far we've fallen.

I apologize if my comments are too aggressive. Not meaning to be a dick, just pissed.

Wonder if we'll get a new ePATRIOT Act out of all this. :(

Solid. I'm pissed too so my apologies as well. Because we are woosing out. Shit sure has changed.

eDave 12-17-2014 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11199372)
Dave, I really wish I could answer your question.

The truth is, I have no idea why trailers are cut as they are these days. Some seem to give away the entire plot, some seem vague and some just don't represent the film at all.

It's definitely a mystery.

Well there's my answer. Thanks dude.

Brock 12-17-2014 07:57 PM

All it takes is a chickenshit threat to shut down sony? Are they japanese or french?

keg in kc 12-17-2014 07:59 PM

I'm not particularly upset because for me it's a stupid-looking movie I wasn't going to see anyway. Hell, I may be more likely to see it now than I was before. (you know, thinking about it that way....)

And Sony Pictures has been a disaster for years, all the shit the hacking's let out is probably going to be good for us (the entertainment consumer) in the long run.

And I think most of international politics is bullshit at this point. The world is a series of interconnected transnational corporations. Including the US. Government in the 21st century is all about business.

unlurking 12-17-2014 08:03 PM

Spoiler!


http://www.theverge.com/2014/12/16/7...un-death-scene

Death scene.

DaneMcCloud 12-17-2014 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by eDave (Post 11199375)
Well there's my answer. Thanks dude.

Yeah, it sucks, man, and it makes my job infinitely more difficult.

In 2011, I began composing and producing music for film and TV. Since then, I've had several national commercials, tons of network promos, scored a film for Paramount and placed music in thousands of episodes of network and cable TV.

While I am very, very fortunate for the work, I still have no idea why the "Decision Makers" make the decisions they make. I can't tell you how many times I've been been paid to create music for a commercial or specific work, only for my work not to be used. It's all good because I'm generally paid upfront for the work. Then, I'll hear the commercial/promo/theme song/whatever and think "That's what they wanted? That's completely different from the work order!".

I'm not very good at mind reading although I'm trying to learn. :D

Anyway, short story long, it's nearly impossible to know unless you happen to be in the room.

eDave 12-17-2014 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by unlurking (Post 11199399)
[spoiler]

Death scene.

Huh. Decent cinematography.

eDave 12-17-2014 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11199401)
Yeah, it sucks, man, and it makes my job infinitely more difficult.

In 2011, I began composing and producing music for film and TV. Since then, I've had several national commercials, tons of network promos, scored a film for Paramount and placed music in thousands of episodes of network and cable TV.

While I am very, very fortunate for the work, I still have no idea why the "Decision Makers" make the decisions they make. I can't tell you how many times I've been been paid to create music for a commercial or specific work, only for my work not to be used. It's all good because I'm generally paid upfront for the work. Then, I'll hear the commercial/promo/theme song/whatever and think "That's what they wanted? That's completely different from the work order!".

I'm not very good at mind reading although I'm trying to learn. :D

Anyway, short story long, it's nearly impossible to know unless you happen to be in the room.

One day, I'd like to talk to you about all of that. I'm very interested in what you do. I'd gladly meet you in Hollywood.


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