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DenverChief 12-21-2014 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 11209217)
8. Jamaal Charles may be the best running back in Chiefs history. But he is not a big game player, and is not a clutch player. He is injury prone, and he is mistake prone. He does not shine when most needed. Today he fumbled at a critical point in a 10-6 game, bringing about a potential 14-point swing; killing a Chiefs drive at the Pittsburgh 25. Then Pittsburgh marches the ball right down the field for seven and moves to a 17-6 lead, and game over. Charles could only manage 29 yards on nine carries, that's less than three yards a carry. Meanwhile, Bell runs for 63 yards and a TD. That's not great production, but he did score a TD in a critical game at a critical time. Charles has to prove to me he can be a difference maker in a game that means something important. He's never done that. Unfortunately, he's been beat up, or had a concussion, or for whatever reason couldn't rise to the occasion. His inability to stay healthy was a major reason we lost the Colts playoff game last year. Wasn't his fault he got hurt, but I'm just saying, the great ones rise to the occasion. Charles has never done that as a Chief. The NFL is a cruel, results oriented business. So by the standards of measurement in the NFL, it makes him a very good player. Not a great player compared to other backs in clutch situation. He may be in the Hall of Fame someday, but his lack of post season production will temper the discussion.

Disagree on this. Jamaal is not built to take the pounding he does by DL and LB's. Our offensive line is so bad that he can't get past first level tackles very often. Sure some of it is his fault but I think we need major upgrades on the OL.


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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 11209217)
5. Andy Reid made Alex Smith throw 45 times today. He only ran the ball 14 times. If Charles was too banged up to run, then pound Knile Davis. Davis is a capable big back. He's a lot like.....oh, say BELL of Pittsburgh. This kind of offensive imbalance is why we lose. If you are going to throw the ball all day, where is Kelce? Four catches? The only play Kelce was involved in that meant anything was a fake field goal. Then after showing the stones to try to sustain a drive for seven, they run Charles up the middle, Fasano gets beat on his block and Charles makes a yard. Then Bowe drops the fade in the end zone, then on third down Alex gets chased around the right side with no time to throw, because Fisher got beat by Harrison again. Alex meekly runs out of bounds at the five, and we kick a field goal. Then the Steelers march right down field to score their first TD. I think Andy knew that we'd need TDs to hang today. I think that's why he went for the fourth and one right before halftime. He gambled on Fisher and lost.

Kelce can't seem to hold on to the ball to save his life. I'm tired of him fumbling it EVERYTIME he makes a catch.

petegz28 12-21-2014 05:55 PM

Did you see how much more time Benny R. had compared to Smith? It's pathetic how bad our O-line is.

DaFace 12-21-2014 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Smoke (Post 11209221)
First

I have an honest, not judging question:

Why do people do this? I don't understand it at all.

Easy 6 12-21-2014 06:01 PM

And also, I love ya gblowfish... but seriously cant believe that you're on the JC is a dog bandwagon, holy shit dude, stop blaming him... in the words of Sweet Daddy "its like blaming sugar for being sweet".

"He doesnt show up in big games?"... he shows up in NINETY NINE PERCENT OF GAMES, how about SOMEONE ELSE showing up once in a while?

Deberg_1990 12-21-2014 06:02 PM

All things considered, I think the defense has played respectable this season and overall is better than last year. They don't give up nearly as many big plays as they did last year.


It's the Chiefs offense that needs work. They can't score TDs at critical moments. Alex Smith is a horrible red zone QB. It's not just him though. There is a myriad of problems, but the QB is always going to take the bulk of the blame.

Easy 6 12-21-2014 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 11209583)
But.. But.. But.. The game was close! There was no need to risk trying for the TD! Play it safe and take the points!

This pussy ass franchise and its brain washed fans. TD win most games. Score more and win more. **** this playing not to lose bullshit.

On that note, to be honest I'd be a liar if I said I didnt think Reid should've taken the three right before half... we get the ball next half only down 1.

TEX 12-21-2014 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 11209575)
"If You Cant Score Touchdowns You Dont Deserve to go to The Playoffs".

Theres your 2015 motto that hangs above the lockerroom exit.

This

Easy 6 12-21-2014 06:09 PM

And yes, I'm going to say it, and not that they are all to blame... but Houston and Hali, where do they go in crunch time?

You can almost always count on the pass rush to disappear against a) Denver and b) against decent road teams... no, its not all on them of course, but to say they dont disappear during crucial stretches is a LIE.

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-21-2014 06:14 PM

Charles did not choke. That is ignorant.

He did not fumble, which other than picking the wrong hole over and again, is about the only way a RB can choke. He was given a dozen touches. That isn't the fault of Charles, but the Crisco-sweating mother****er holding the laminated sheet on the sideline.

BigRedChief 12-21-2014 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 11209217)
8. Jamaal Charles may be the best running back in Chiefs history. But he is not a big game player, and is not a clutch player. He is injury prone, and he is mistake prone. He does not shine when most needed.

Jamaal is not a between the guards runner. Reid keeps insisting that Charles runs up the center. He needs to run and catch the ball in space. 7 out of his measly 9 runs were over the center. Thats not his game. Thats on Reid.

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-21-2014 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 11209650)
Jamaal is not a between the guards runner. Reid keeps insisting that Charles runs up the center. He needs to run and catch the ball in space. 7 out of his measly 9 runs were over the center. Thats not his game. Thats on Reid.

Charles is an excellent runner between the tackles. He always has been.

SAUTO 12-21-2014 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 11209283)
Bowe didn't drop the ball. It was a great play by their corner to punch it out. I'm not mad at Bowe for that play.

Exactly.

The other team's players play the game too

lcarus 12-21-2014 06:21 PM

Nice write up. I agree with all of it but I'm not gonna blame Houston or Charles for much. Yeah that fumble sucked. Was it possible that he was down or did the ball start coming loose before his knee went down? Either way, he's gotta hold on to the ball.

And I'm just tired of Alex Smith. I've held off on blowing up on the dude here because A) there are tons of posters here who pretty much have that covered and do a better job of it than I ever could and B) I've felt kinda bad for him behind that awful, awful line. But NOW? I'm just done with the guy. **** him. When we have a 3rd down passing situation, not only am I shocked if we pick up the first down, but I'm shocked when it doesn't end up with either a sack or him being flushed out of the pocket only to throw the ball away or check it down for a 1 yard gain. It's just incredible how limited our offense is with this guy. He has pretty decent ability to keep plays alive and scramble out of trouble, but it never amounts to anything. Like....EVER. I see guys wide open on replays way too ****ing much. He's just gotta quit being a pussy and let guys make a play sometimes.

Easy 6 12-21-2014 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DenverChief (Post 11209592)
Disagree on this. Jamaal is not built to take the pounding he does by DL and LB's. Our offensive line is so bad that he can't get past first level tackles very often.

A serious point made.

JC is consistently asked to beat linemen and backers, consistently being asked to pound it between the tackles... its not the recipe for success with a guy like JC, this line is absolute dogshit, everyone but Hudson can suck my dong.

Fisher? dudes a bust, he just is... no better than this at the end of his second season? **** HIM.

007 12-21-2014 06:24 PM

Merry Christmas George. At least it will be better than this miserable team.


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