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suzzer99 12-30-2014 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 11229133)
Not as much risk (INTs), not as much reward (TDs).. but that's no surprise with Smith.

Interesting comparison though.

Let's have a look at the starting OL for Trent in 2002...

LT - Willie Roaf - 11 time pro-bowl player
LG - Brian Waters - 6 time pro-bowler
C - Casey Wiegmann - 1 time pro-bowler and all around solid
RG - Will Shields - 12 time pro-bowler
RT - John Tait - remember him to be very solid, no?

... shall we look at the 2014 line? lol... no.. don't think that will be necessary.
You just made me sad.

Lzen 12-30-2014 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 11229249)
Ah, it's inspiring to know that we're just hoping and praying our $17mil/per QB can some day ascend to the level of Trent Green.

I have a feeling he's really going to turn it on in year ten! That's when a lot of young guys finally start to "get it".
What! We're paying $17mil/yr for Smith? I did not realize it was that much. We sure aren't getting our money's worth. :banghead:

chiefzilla1501 12-30-2014 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 11229324)
I'm not saying Tebow was a good QB.

However, he had 6 fourth quarter comebacks in 14 starts.

Alex has 14 fourth quarter comebacks in 105 starts.
More appropriate comparison... Russell Wilson has 9 in half as many starts. More importantly... Has 14 game winning drives vs. Alex smith's 16. Not good for a QB whose MO his entire career is keeping games close.

duncan_idaho 12-30-2014 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 11229323)
Don't knock Kennison. As I recall he had 2 or 3 straight 1000 yards (or close to it) receiving seasons. He was a 1st rounder that didn't do so well in his first couple of stops. But make no mistake, he was a good WR.
Not knocking Eddie at all. I thiink he and Bowe are pretty comparable guys, actually.

Neither probably appreciated as much during their good years as they should have been.

Sandy Vagina 12-30-2014 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 11229331)
What! We're paying $17mil/yr for Smith? I did not realize it was that much. We sure aren't getting our money's worth. :banghead:
meh.. technically, KC paid 4.6 mil in 2014 for Smith. (cap hit).. That's the part that matters. Next season, he will count 15.5 against the cap.. and that is when you can bang your head against the wall if he is not earning it. He earned his 4.6 behind this shit OL this year, lol.

ODESSABRONC 12-30-2014 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 11229294)
Alex behind that OL would have 30 TD's. Hell a lot of QB's would have 30 TD's with that OL.
That's wishful thinking considering his history. Smith had a good offensive line in San Francisco and in his best overall he only managed 17 that's basically one per game. The following which might have been even better he only had 13 in ten games. At that rate even if he started the last six games he might of reached 20.

Pablo 12-30-2014 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 11229331)
What! We're paying $17mil/yr for Smith? I did not realize it was that much. We sure aren't getting our money's worth. :banghead:
Something like $27mil between him and Bowe this season.

Cool stuff.

jd1020 12-30-2014 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 11229340)
meh.. technically, KC paid 4.6 mil in 2014 for Smith. (cap hit).. That's the part that matters. Next season, he will count 15.5 against the cap.. and that is when you can bang your head against the wall if he is not earning it. He earned his 4.6 behind this shit OL this year, lol.
Technically, you are a ****ing moron. Alex doesn't sign his contract without getting $18M upfront. They paid him $19M this year... "technically." Or, as I like to think about it, more than $1M for every TD thrown.

Sandy Vagina 12-30-2014 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 11229346)
Alex doesn't sign his contract without getting $18M upfront. They paid him $19M this year... "technically."
none of this refutes a single point I made... suck my dick bitch.

johnny961 12-30-2014 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 11229133)
Not as much risk (INTs), not as much reward (TDs).. but that's no surprise with Smith.

Interesting comparison though.

Let's have a look at the starting OL for Trent in 2002...

LT - Willie Roaf - 11 time pro-bowl player
LG - Brian Waters - 6 time pro-bowler
C - Casey Wiegmann - 1 time pro-bowler and all around solid
RG - Will Shields - 12 time pro-bowler
RT - John Tait - remember him to be very solid, no?

... shall we look at the 2014 line? lol... no.. don't think that will be necessary.
Yep. A QB could have taken a short nap before deciding to throw the ball behind that 2002 line...compared to the sieve we have now for a line. If we had a comparable line now this offense improves dramatically. In today's NFL that line would still dominate.

jd1020 12-30-2014 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 11229348)
none of this refutes a single point I made... suck my dick bitch.
Yes, it kind of does. You said KC technically paid him $4.6M.

I know you are a dumbass and all and Alex is on your speed dial, so please jump off the top of the Golden Gate Bridge.

johnny961 12-30-2014 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 11229339)
Not knocking Eddie at all. I thiink he and Bowe are pretty comparable guys, actually.

Neither probably appreciated as much during their good years as they should have been.
Kennison was much faster iirc.

Pablo 12-30-2014 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 11229355)
Yes, it kind of does. You said KC technically paid him $4.6M.

I know you are a dumbass and all and Alex is on your speed dial, so please jump off the top of the Golden Gate Bridge.
He probably has no connections at all to San Fran, much like he has no connections to KC.

Just floats around to whatever team Alex is on or will be on.

Lzen 12-30-2014 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 11229355)
Yes, it kind of does. You said KC technically paid him $4.6M.

I know you are a dumbass and all and Alex is on your speed dial, so please jump off the top of the Golden Gate Bridge.
The only thing that matters is how much did it count against the cap this year. Can you ladies stop your catfight and just tell me that figure?

Mile High Mania 12-30-2014 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ODESSeABRONC (Post 11229272)
Denver didn't win games because Tebow could light it up throwing the ball. They won with the formula of keeping games close with good defense, special teams, and running the ball. But when Denver would get down by more than 10 points it was generally a disaster. Oh btw as you may recall the Chiefs beat the Broncos the last week of the season in Denver the year Tebow quarterbacked the team. Tebow threw for a whopping 60 yards. Nice kid but he didn't have the skills to be a NFL quarterback.

That aside, Tebowites made tons of excuses for Tebow poor play.
Yeah, and KC WRs had no TDs that game either (3-7 loss with Denver having over 200 yds rushing, crazy) ... but the next weekend - this happened.

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