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BlackOp 07-16-2015 11:54 AM

Dorsey has made deliberate decisions this off-season. I'm still wary of DJ's repaired achilles lasting all season..or him being 100%. Kendricks makes too much sense considering what happened to the Chiefs run defense last season. There is a lot riding on DJ's health...as a GM, I'm not sure how comfortable I'd be with that.

They could be hanging on to that cash as players get cut/injured in a few weeks too. Do some dumpster diving..

CoMoChief 07-16-2015 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 11602062)
In order:

1)WR
2) RG
3) ILB...

Even though I agree w/ the above...I don't think the Chiefs are looking for more WR help..maybe I'm wrong. But Maclin was a large contract signing and I'm guessing they're through this year at that position unless someone gets hurt. Conley, DAT, Maclin, Wilson, Kelce, Charles are all viable options for Smith. He's going to dink and dunk it all ****in season anyways, may not be in the cards to spend $$$ on another WR.

OL help, or maybe NT Red Bryant on the cheap? Maybe extend Poe's deal and lock him up long term. He's the 2nd most important player on defense besides Houston.

bricks 07-16-2015 01:38 PM

If I were the Chiefs, I'd go out and get a guard. Evan Mathis it is for me.

I mean this Oline needs more stability and veteran leadership. There are still too many question marks on it.

Dunerdr 07-16-2015 01:43 PM

Moar whores!

Dunerdr 07-16-2015 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by bricks (Post 11602250)
If I were the Chiefs, I'd go out and get a guard. Evan Mathis it is for me.

I mean this Oline needs more stability and veteran leadership. There are still too many question marks on it.

I think it was stated like 36 bajillion times it's not happening.

DJ's left nut 07-16-2015 01:53 PM

Here's the thing about Poe - he's just not a terribly high priority item right now.

They have him for 1 more year on his base rookie deal then another dirt cheap season as a 1st rounder outside of the top 10 on his 5th year player option. Then they can tag him for 2 years after that at pretty reasonable rates (i.e. about 75% of what Suh's AAV is).

Then the worst case scenario is that he enters the FA market in his age 29 season with the Chiefs have driven him hard for 7 seasons.

If you can use the 4 years of below market team control you have to sign him to an extremely team friendly extension, I guess you consider it. That being said, I don't see a huge rush still. A lot can go wrong when a fat guy gets paid - NT's have higher bust rates than most when they get their big $$ contract, IIRC.

Hog's Gone Fishin 07-16-2015 02:15 PM

Is that guard Mathis still available . If he is then that would be a place to throw away some money.

ChiefGator 07-16-2015 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 11602289)
Is that guard Mathis still available . If he is then that would be a place to throw away some money.

Way to think outside the box!

Hogs and cookies keep you up?

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FlaChief58 07-16-2015 02:40 PM

Give it to Smiff

jimidollar 07-16-2015 02:43 PM

Let the Royals borrow it since they actually have a chance to win something.

Strongside 07-16-2015 02:45 PM

Sign Jeff George.

Three7s 07-16-2015 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 11601967)
I just have to think that most of these veteran players see how it works out for guys on the decline when they leave the team they're on. The adjustment is usually just too much for a guy to make while also dealing with declining skills.

Now if you're DJ and you get a chance for one last payday, sure - you take it. Maybe Hali could find himself in a similar spot with a bounceback season but I think we saw the wheels wobbling big time last year and I wouldn't be shocked if he fell of a cliff this season. DeVito may play a style of game where he can hang on a little bit longer, but these young O-lineman are getting bigger, stronger and quicker each year. Unless they 2-gap with him, he's probably going to run into some struggles as well.

Berry was overpaid when he didn't have cancer, IMO. I'm done trying to figure out ways to come up with $10 million a season for a box safety. I loved the Berry pick and think he's a great person. I also think he's become slightly overrated as a player and he's not someone worth leveraging your cap over. Some team will pay him big money and I'm inclined to let them do it.

I agree. I enjoy watching Berry play, and he's certainly one of the better safeties in the league, but $10 mil a year for an above average safety? No thanks. He doesn't make enough game-changing plays to get that kind of coin.

ThaVirus 07-16-2015 03:35 PM

What do the Chiefs do w/ the extra cap space?
 
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Originally Posted by Three7s (Post 11602403)
I agree. I enjoy watching Berry play, and he's certainly one of the better safeties in the league, but $10 mil a year for an above average safety? No thanks. He doesn't make enough game-changing plays to get that kind of coin.


Since we're apparently better off without him, I'm in the let-him-walk-if-he-ever-plays-again camp.

But this notion just isn't really correct. At his peak, he definitely changed games. During the 2013 season, his best as a pro, he basically neutralized every TE we faced all season long. You could see it in the stat sheet as well. No team was better at defending the TE that year except the Bills, and you can attribute nearly 100% of that success to Berry given our scheme and his responsibilities.

There were also times when you could see the guy was out there busting his ass, obviously one of our best defenders. The 2010 playoff game against the Ravens is one example.

I've also broken down turnover rates for Berry and Earl Thomas, as so many love to do here. Over the length of their careers, Earl Thomas averages like 1.2 more INTs per season than Berry.

BlackOp 07-16-2015 04:27 PM

Berry made out like a bandit...he only really played 3 1/2 years and banked $60 million. A safety should never be the 2nd highest payed player on your team.

If he returns in 2016...I seriously doubt it will be for KC.

DJ's left nut 07-16-2015 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 11602526)
Berry made out like a bandit...he only really played 3 1/2 years and banked $60 million. A safety should never be the 2nd highest payed player on your team.

If he returns in 2016...I seriously doubt it will be for KC.

Yeah, speaking from a purely objective perspective, it would be tough to say that the Berry pick yielded positive returns for the Chiefs.

That high in the draft and for the kind of money spent during a down period in the Chiefs competitive cycle, it just hasn't been a great return. Now a fairly significant part of that isn't necessarily his fault (out of whack rookie contracts, the knee, the Chiefs being largely terrible....cancer), but fault isn't the issue here.

Sum total, paying $60 million for 3 1/2 seasons of SS play (in 5 years) on a .500 football team is probably not a great allocation of resources. I was so amped about the pick and thought the guy was going to be the lynchpin of a turnaround but I think ultimately the returns on the pick have to be considered pretty unimpressive.


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