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Sweet Daddy Hate 10-14-2015 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 11801328)
LMAO


I am shocked nobody is pimping him right now. NOBODY.

:D

oldman 10-14-2015 07:14 AM

I think we're all pretty much in agreement on steps 1-3 of the OP. I'm going to differ right now with the OP on step 4. Playing Daniel proves nothing, so let's see what we have in Murray. If he sucks, draft a QB. If he doesn't, let's not waste a 1st on what appears to be a pretty weak QB class. Developmental QBs in the next draft can be had in later rounds.

rabblerouser 10-14-2015 07:15 AM

1 step for helping fox the Chiefs :

Fire Reid.

oldman 10-14-2015 07:23 AM

Firing Reid at this point doesn't do anything but appease the villagers with pitchforks. This season is lost, end of story. You know it, I know it, and Clark knows it. There isn't anyone that can turn this ship around.

Dave Lane 10-14-2015 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by oldman (Post 11801348)
Firing Reid at this point doesn't do anything but appease the villagers with pitchforks. This season is lost, end of story. You know it, I know it, and Clark knows it. There isn't anyone that can turn this ship around.

And Reid isn't going anywhere, nor should he. He has till the end of next season barring complete collapse to show his stuff.

Those that will be led to the guoillotine first will be Andy's playcalling, Sutton, Heck, Alex and then maybe Andy goes if next year if he finishes below .500. Pretty much in that order is my guess.

milkman 10-14-2015 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by oldman (Post 11801334)
I think we're all pretty much in agreement on steps 1-3 of the OP. I'm going to differ right now with the OP on step 4. Playing Daniel proves nothing, so let's see what we have in Murray. If he sucks, draft a QB. If he doesn't, let's not waste a 1st on what appears to be a pretty weak QB class. Developmental QBs in the next draft can be had in later rounds.

Here's the thing.

I was pretty adamant this past off season with the opinion that holding onto Chase Daniel was a waste of a roster spot.

He was pretty much an Alex Smith mini me as a QB, so I didn't give a rat's ass about his experience, which was the argument for keeping him.

In the preseason, however, I saw a completely different QB that I had seen in his previous preseason exposure, and his two regular season games against against the Chargers in the regular season.

It is not out of the question that Chase Daniel grew and progressed into an actual NFL calibre QB, and I would actually find out what he is before letting him walk.

If his presreason turns out to be a mirage, then you draft a QB next year, and let Murray, Bray and the drafted rookie battle it out.

milkman 10-14-2015 08:42 AM

The things that must change.

New DC.
New playcaller
New QB

Reerun_KC 10-14-2015 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 11801386)
And Reid isn't going anywhere, nor should he. He has till the end of next season barring complete collapse to show his stuff.

Those that will be led to the guoillotine first will be Andy's playcalling, Sutton, Heck, Alex and then maybe Andy goes if next year if he finishes below .500. Pretty much in that order is my guess.

Reid has show his '"stuff" more than we need to see in the future.

He was at the top of his game on Thursday night for Denver.

Everyone got to see that "stuff" in all its glory.. The fat **** isn't changing nor is he leading this franchise anywhere. Soon the better.

oldman 10-14-2015 09:52 AM

The only thing wrong I see with playing Daniel is that he's a FA at the end of the year. If he does well, can we pony up the money to keep him and still take the cap hit for Smith? We have other potential FAs that warrant a raise. My contention is that Murray played just as well in preseason when the staff opened up the playbook for him.

RealSNR 10-14-2015 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefRocka (Post 11801253)
What about an O'Brien (OC)/Hackenberg reunion next year in Chiefs red?

No Patriots.

I don't care how many reeruns on this forum pine for Haley and say, "Pioli wasn't so bad, he just had an attitude problem. He's calmed down I'll bet!"

Unless we're getting the SOURCE of the Patriot success (Tom Brady) I want none of their shit.

Hydrae 10-14-2015 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Williams (Post 11801327)
I'd love to see Bray come in and sling, at least that would be interesting.

Other than that whole being on NFI-IR I would agree. I really want to see what we have in Bray. They must see something they really like since they gave him an extension even with him being hurt.

RunKC 10-14-2015 10:47 AM

I would trust Andy getting us a QB in the draft based on prior experience in Philly...

However, Andy's biggest problem is playcalling. The only way I would even consider keeping him is by him giving up playcalling duties. And that won't happen.

That's why We need a change

Molitoth 10-14-2015 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 11801625)
No Patriots.

I don't care how many reeruns on this forum pine for Haley and say, "Pioli wasn't so bad, he just had an attitude problem. He's calmed down I'll bet!"

Unless we're getting the SOURCE of the Patriot success (Tom Brady) I want none of their shit.

I'd take Bill. He can be OUR cheater.

Discuss Thrower 10-14-2015 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Hydrae (Post 11801628)
Other than that whole being on NFI-IR I would agree. I really want to see what we have in Bray. They must see something they really like since they gave him an extension even with him being hurt.

Wiki sez NFI is the equivalent to PUP..

rabblerouser 10-14-2015 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Williams (Post 11801327)
I'd love to see Bray come in and sling, at least that would be interesting.

Chase Daniel is Alex Smith before Alex got destroyed.


Bray and Murray and a draft pick.


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