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-King- 11-01-2015 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 11856231)
I've said this before and I'll say it again.

Giving Alex Smith great receivers and a great ol is like giving a Lamborghini to Mr. Magoo. It's sad that the only reason people are reluctant to make this trade is they know it's basically putting lipstick on a pig.

We have one of the worst 5 offensive lines in the entire league. But because we have Alex Smith, we shouldn't try to improve it. Great logic bro.

Mr. Laz 11-01-2015 04:41 PM

Seattle should be all over Mack


trading their center to the Saints just killed them

Mother****erJones 11-01-2015 04:42 PM

This is all nonsense anyways because we know this team won't make any moves to try and improve now.

-King- 11-01-2015 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 11856238)
You probably don't understand the concept of diminishing returns, do you.

Adding a very good offensive lineman who can give us 4-5 years of good production is bad. We should stick with our bottom 5 Oline. CP logic.

chiefzilla1501 11-01-2015 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 11856245)
We have one of the worst 5 offensive lines in the entire league. But because we have Alex Smith, we shouldn't try to improve it. Great logic bro.

Sadly, we are a team that will change the thing around the problem instead of fixing the problem itself. So if we make big trades to fix the OL for a QB who has no ****ing concept of how to use a better OL, what's the point? If these trades save the job of a guy who is the part of the problem, then what did we solve?

Mr. Laz 11-01-2015 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 11856245)
We have one of the worst 5 offensive lines in the entire league. But because we have Alex Smith, we shouldn't try to improve it. Great logic bro.

Don't expect logic from him


They said the same thing about Maclin and he is better than Bowe with Alex Smith. Now that our Oline has improved a little bit he should be even more productive.


It would be more logical to say "why trade for Jeffery with Andy Reid?"

Reid want's YAC guys to fit his lateral passing game.

Mr. Laz 11-01-2015 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 11856257)
Sadly, we are a team that will change the thing around the problem instead of fixing the problem itself. So if we make big trades to fix the OL for a QB who has no ****ing concept of how to use a better OL, what's the point? If these trades save the job of a guy who is the part of the problem, then what did we solve?

You've gone all Gochief ...





never go all Gochiefs

'Hamas' Jenkins 11-01-2015 04:48 PM

Did someone really just suggest that the Bears would give up Alshon Jeffrey for a sixth round pick?

Is there a jenkum leak in your house?

O.city 11-01-2015 04:49 PM

Smith is more dependent on his offensive line than his skill guys, skill guys still being important.

They need to improve the offensive line for whoever plays qb so I don't understand why that's am issue

chiefzilla1501 11-01-2015 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by RobBlake (Post 11856235)
So, it's better to not to try to improve the offense, because.. eff it?

Making trades for 30 year old Olinemen are "win now" strategies that damage your long-term cap. So our strategy is to win now behind Alex Smith as the centerpiece? In a season where we have to literally be perfect to make a playoff run? **** that noise.

'Hamas' Jenkins 11-01-2015 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 11856271)
Smith is more dependent on his offensive line than his skill guys, skill guys still being important.

They need to improve the offensive line for whoever plays qb so I don't understand why that's am issue

Smith is indecisive on everything other than the shortest throws. He doesn't see receivers down the deep middle part of the field at all and panics at the first hint of pressure.

He had an elite line in SF with a great TE and RB and all that team did was kick FGs.

-King- 11-01-2015 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 11856257)
Sadly, we are a team that will change the thing around the problem instead of fixing the problem itself. So if we make big trades to fix the OL for a QB who has no ****ing concept of how to use a better OL, what's the point? If these trades save the job of a guy who is the part of the problem, then what did we solve?

The offensive line has given up 30+ sacks in 8 games. THAT. IS. A. PROBLEM.


Why are people trying to act like the offensive line is good or even average and that it's just Alex bringing them down? This is just idiotic.

Discuss Thrower 11-01-2015 04:55 PM

zilla is 100% correct, but now anything outside of homerism is banned.

-King- 11-01-2015 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 11856278)
Making trades for 30 year old Olinemen are "win now" strategies that damage your long-term cap. So our strategy is to win now behind Alex Smith as the centerpiece? In a season where we have to literally be perfect to make a playoff run? **** that noise.

He has a very good manageable contract for the next 3 years. So how the hell does it damage our long term cap?

chiefzilla1501 11-01-2015 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 11856271)
Smith is more dependent on his offensive line than his skill guys, skill guys still being important.

They need to improve the offensive line for whoever plays qb so I don't understand why that's am issue

The problem with Alex Smith is he's dependent on a running game that will help him control clock, a defense that can close games for him, and now he's also dependent on WRs and OL as well? How many elite players do you have to put around him before you realize he's part of the problem? How do we possibly come up with the payroll to put 21 pro bowlers around him?


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