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Psyko Tek 04-02-2016 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan (Post 12160389)

TOM BRADY
never trade JC, and if you do make them hurt for it

DaneMcCloud 04-02-2016 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy (Post 12160678)
This better not happen. Dorsey would be an idiot to trade him to them. Why are teams always helping them with trades? You want them to fail not get better.

LMAO

ThaVirus 04-02-2016 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12160684)
LMAO

Tuckdaddy is a buffoon, but why would we want to trade our best player to the team most likely to be our #1 road block on the road to the Super Bowl?

You don't make these types of trades to conference contenders or within your division, IMO.

ThaVirus 04-02-2016 03:30 PM

How ridiculous would their offense be with Brady, Charles, Gronk, Bennett, and Edelman?

Our defense doesn't have the horses to keep up.

DaneMcCloud 04-02-2016 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 12160688)
Tuckdaddy is a buffoon, but why would we want to trade our best player to the team most likely to be our #1 road block on the road to the Super Bowl?

You don't make these types of trades to conference contenders or within your division, IMO.

If some team is dumb enough to trade a #2 for a 29 year old running back with two ACL surgeries, whose game is predicated on slashing and cutting, you do it.

And Charles is not the Chiefs "best" or most important offensive skill player.

It's a tie between Maclin and Kelce, although I lean Maclin at this point.

milkman 04-02-2016 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12160690)
If some team is dumb enough to trade a #2 for a 29 year old running back with two ACL surgeries, whose game is predicated on slashing and cutting, you do it.

And Charles is not the Chiefs "best" or most important offensive skill player.

It's a tie between Maclin and Kelce, although I lean Maclin at this point.

I think to describe Charles as a slasher and cutting is off the mark.

His game is about speed and burst, though he does have a little more power than he's given credit for.

He doesn't make people miss.
He finds a seam and hits it.

SAUTO 04-02-2016 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 12160694)
I think to describe Charles as a slasher and cutting is off the mark.

His game is about speed and burst, though he does have a little more power than he's given credit for.

He doesn't make people miss.
He finds a seam and hits it.

He is a bike rider runner.


His cuts are sometimes more leans

DaneMcCloud 04-02-2016 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 12160698)
He is a bike rider runner.

His cuts are sometimes more leans

I agree. And that's what makes his second ACL injury even more concerning that his first.

He's not a straight ahead, power type runner.

He appears to be off-balance when he runs but that's, as you stated, him leaning, which put pressure on his knees.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 04-02-2016 03:48 PM

Won't happen.

But it's all about buying low and selling high

TigeRRUppeRRcut 04-02-2016 03:50 PM

Think about what happened to Dwayne Wade, Derrick Rose, and Ginobli's knees. Jamaal Charles is no different. All the side stepping and slashing took a toll and he will never be the same guy. Could we work him in to the lineup and get 60% of the snaps he was taking before? Absolutely. But his 2017 salary is too much to stomach. Unless he restructures, this could be his last season with us.

New World Order 04-02-2016 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12160714)
Think about what happened to Dwayne Wade, Derrick Rose, and Ginobli's knees. Jamaal Charles is no different. All the side stepping and slashing took a toll and he will never be the same guy. Could we work him in to the lineup and get 60% of the snaps he was taking before? Absolutely. But his 2017 salary is too much to stomach. Unless he restructures, this could be his last season with us.


Charles and Ware can be the best 1-2 punch in the league.

Charles is elite, and Ware will be there soon.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 04-02-2016 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 12160505)
The Patriots are going to spend $6m, plus the trade cost, on a running back coming back from ACL surgery, when they've already got Dion Lewis having to come back from the same thing, and pretty much nothing at all behind that?

Next rumor

That's all this is and from a no-name source. Dion Lewis meets the needs of the Pats need and they can find some half-decent goal-line back to cover the rest.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 04-02-2016 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 12160718)
Charles and Ware can be the best 1-2 punch in the league.

Charles is elite, and Ware will be there soon.

I agree. Although if West/Ware in 2017 is what we have to go with, we are in good hands behind this improving O-line and plenty of draft picks to draft depth if Davis/Charles end up leaving.

Releasing Charles in 2017 rather than paying him that 8+ million is big money to spend on Poe +/- a free agent corner/safety/linebacker if that's we are in desperate need of obtaining next off season.

Otter 04-02-2016 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12160451)
Dumb as ****, as always.

Only a moron would pass on a second round pick for a 29 year old running back coming off his second ACL injury, whose game is predicated on slashing and cutting.

:thumb:

You jump on that quicker than Jenny Mccarthy 20 years ago after her 3rd martini.

Chief Northman 04-02-2016 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Otter (Post 12160755)
:thumb:

You jump on that quicker than Jenny Mccarthy 20 years ago after her 3rd martini.

:hmmm:
Interesting analogy. I like.


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