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Hammock Parties 08-18-2016 11:21 AM

If Derek Carr is wrong, I don't want to be right.

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staylor26 08-18-2016 11:27 AM

Ok? Now post some gifs of his 4th quarter meltdowns.

BossChief 08-18-2016 11:33 AM

Derek Carr also had 100 more pass attempts to get to those gaudy numbers than Alex Smith last year...Alex had a higher YPA, rating and total QBR.

Also, when you figure in rushing yards...their offensive production was almost identical...again, with Alex having less attempts.

The only thing Carr was better at was testing defenses deep...and even at that I bet the risk to reward was t all that great due to turnovers...ill have to check

O.city 08-18-2016 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12374380)
Eh, clay stumbled in and all hell kind of broke loose.

Pretty much what you'd expect.

When you're right, you're right.

NWTF 08-18-2016 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 12374412)
Derek Carr also had 100 more pass attempts to get to those gaudy numbers than Alex Smith last year...Alex had a higher YPA, rating and total QBR.

Also, when you figure in rushing yards...their offensive production was almost identical...again, with Alex having less attempts.

The only thing Carr was better at was testing defenses deep...and even at that I bet the risk to reward was t all that great due to turnovers...ill have to check

Yeah, KC has a better running game and defense then they do. Im sure they wish they could play hold the lead and run out the clock in the 4th but they are not good enough yet.

jjchieffan 08-18-2016 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Smellway (Post 12374390)
If Derek Carr is wrong, I don't want to be right.

Good thing, because right is something that rarely applies to you.

Hammock Parties 08-18-2016 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12374397)
Ok? Now post some gifs of his 4th quarter meltdowns.

the point is that he can do things that Alex can't do and attempts throws he wouldn't even consider

check back in 10 years and see who had the better career because of that difference alone

Dinny Bossa Nova 08-18-2016 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Smellway (Post 12374436)
the point is that he can do things that Alex can't do and attempts throws he wouldn't even consider

check back in 10 years and see who had the better career because of that difference alone

How is the 5 year prediction you made between the careers of Geno Smith vs Alex Smith working out for you?

Dinny

BossChief 08-18-2016 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Smellway (Post 12374436)
the point is that he can do things that Alex can't do and attempts throws he wouldn't even consider

check back in 10 years and see who had the better career because of that difference alone

And Alex can do things Carr can't do.

After its all said and done, their production was very similar.

The difference being that KC had a much better running game, so that made the running game score more for KC.

If Oakland had Spencer Ware, Carr wouldn't have as many TDs.

Hammock Parties 08-18-2016 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Dinny Blues (Post 12374445)
How is the 5 year prediction you made between the careers of Geno Smith vs Alex Smith working out for you?

Dinny

when i fail to bed a woman it doesn't mean i turn gay

Hammock Parties 08-18-2016 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 12374446)
And Alex can do things Carr can't do.

After its all said and done, their production was very similar.

Yeah gonna say that's bullshit. Carr is almost as mobile and accounted for 10 more TDs.

Grasping at straws here.

Alex is better at being scared and punting though.

jjchieffan 08-18-2016 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Smellway (Post 12374436)
the point is that he can do things that Alex can't do and attempts throws he wouldn't even consider

check back in 10 years and see who had the better career because of that difference alone

He also does a lot of dumb things that Alex won't do. If he hadn't thrown those dumb interceptions last year, he could've beat KC. Strong arm QB's are nice. But you still have to be smart with the ball. Jeff George had a cannon for an arm. Where did that get him? Jamarcus Russell, Geno SMith, the list goes on and on. If he doesn't improve on his bad decisions, that big arm won't be enough to make him good.

Dinny Bossa Nova 08-18-2016 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Smellway (Post 12374447)
when i fail to bed a woman it doesn't mean i turn gay

That depends, is "her" dick bigger than yours?

I don't believe you've had pussy since pussy had you. Tight around the neck.

Dinny

staylor26 08-18-2016 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Smellway (Post 12374450)
Yeah gonna say that's bullshit. Carr is almost as mobile and accounted for 10 more TDs.

Grasping at straws here.

Alex is better at being scared and punting though.

Ummm no.

BossChief 08-18-2016 12:05 PM

Carr
573 pass attempts for 3987 yards 32tds
33 rush attempts for 138 yards 0tds
That's 606 attempts for 4125 yards and 32tds

Smith
470 pass attempts for 3486 yards 20tds
84 rush attempts for 498 yards 2tds
That's 554 attempts for 3984 yards and 22tds

Not much different.

Especially when you factor in that KCs running game scored a ton of TDs and Oaklands didn't.


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