Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12589474)

Not being I jury prone is a pretty big skill. He's been awesome, but not near long enough.

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 12589441)

You're right. The refs seems to want the Chiefs to win this year.

Originally Posted by JasonM (Post 12589360)

Huge break for Denver, we might run da table now

Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 12589434)

You're right -- Gronk is an awesome blocker.


Look, Tony G was a great goddamn tight end. But Gronk is without question the best TE in NFL history, putting aside longevity. He's ****ing ridiculous. He's the Babe Ruth of TEs. Most touchdowns by a TE in a season, most yards. Only TE in NFL history to have 3 years with 10+ TDs and 1,000+ yards. The list is kinda ridiculous.

But yeah, health. Tony G was pretty damn healthy for many, many years, and Gronk just can't say the same.

Originally Posted by Rooster (Post 12589487)

That is the first time in the history of mankind that those words have ever been placed together. ROFL

Originally Posted by POND_OF_RED (Post 12589490)

The two are equal, the thing that gives Tony the edge was his dedication to being the best. Tony never made news being a belligerent idiot in the offseason because he was busy training and staying in shape. He earned the title of the best TE in history. It's so funny every few years some up and coming TE is supposed to be the greatest thing ever (Gates. Gronk...) but the fact is there will never be another TE like TG. He revolutionized the position.

Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 12589448)

That may be, as to reception stats. Don't think Brady helps TEs block, however.

Won't matter. Gronk is 27 but this is his third back surgery. Doubt he plays to 30 to be honest...

Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 12589543)

You honestly have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to Gronk. While a bit of a fruitcake and such, everyone in teh Patriots organization has done nothing but commend his work ethic, football intelligence, etc. Trust me when I say that while I'm sure Tony G was a workout warrior, nobody really out-workouts Gronk. Edelman has mentioned how they will be watching TV, chilling some night, and Gronk just looks at him and says "let's do 50 pushups" out of absolutely nowhere.

He'd be perfect if he could just say healthy. Of course, he seemingly can't, and that is what it is.

Originally Posted by POND_OF_RED (Post 12589545)

I'm curious where this idiotic statement is coming from

Originally Posted by POND_OF_RED (Post 12589552)

http://www.sportspickle.com/wp-conte.../02/Gronk1.jpg
Find me a picture of Tony douching out like this and we can continue your idiotic argument

Originally Posted by POND_OF_RED (Post 12589545)

Did you ever get a chance to watch Tony play? Guy was one of the best pass blocking TE's in the NFL. His final season in the NFL he had a 98% pass blocking efficiency. I'm curious where this idiotic statement is coming from

Originally Posted by rico (Post 12589367)

Watch Tom Brady and Martellus Bennett start building something special.

Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 12589568)

Was he, at 245 pounds, often given DEs to block 1:1? Gronk's 265 puts him in a different league.
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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 12589543)

You honestly have no idea what you're talking abouin the off season when it comes to Gronk. While a bit of a fruitcake and such, everyone in teh Patriots organization has done nothing but commend his work ethic, football intelligence, etc. Trust me when I say that while I'm sure Tony G was a workout warrior, nobody really out-workouts Gronk. Edelman has mentioned how they will be watching TV, chilling some night, and Gronk just looks at him and says "let's do 50 pushups" out of absolutely nowhere.

He'd be perfect if he could just say healthy. Of course, he seemingly can't, and that is what it is.