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JakeF 07-06-2017 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12946286)
Hurray! Another year of overpaying a !@#$ing punter and then bitching about cap space!

Dorsey is always overpaying people and screwing up the cap. They should really fire that guy.

:cuss:

BlackOp 07-06-2017 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12946735)
Nonsense.

Dorsey cut Maclin on June 2, just after the final offseason practice.

If he was going to cut Colquitt, it would have been then, not in the dead period.

I honestly think Dorsey held on to Maclin throughout OTAs due him getting married...and being close to Reid. You cant fire the guy while he's planning all that life shit and ruin it. Slippery slope...there are actual human beings in the locker room.

Dorsey wouldnt just cut the longest tenured Chief before his rookie replacement had the opportunity to prove himself.

DaneMcCloud 07-06-2017 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 12946807)
I honestly think Dorsey held on to Maclin throughout OTAs due him getting married...and being close to Reid. You cant fire the guy while he's planning all that life shit and ruin it. Slippery slope...there are actual human beings in the locker room.

Dorsey wouldnt just cut the longest tenured Chief before his rookie replacement had the opportunity to prove himself.

Silly conjecture.

You go from he's a "Ninja GM" to being a "kind hearted soul".

Dude.

BlackOp 07-06-2017 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12946820)
Silly conjecture.

You go from he's a "Ninja GM" to being a "kind hearted soul".

Dude.

Not at all...purely office politics. How would it look to fire him right before his wedding...then have Reid+several current players in attendance? I'm sure the mood would be fantastic.

He fired Trip MacCracken in May...he knew the cap situation.

I would go as far to say...he had been planning on releasing him since winter. It was a touchy situation. They were shopping him...and signed Logan to a fully guaranteed 8 million contract. You dont make that move without an understanding of where the money is coming from. Maclin's wedding was unfortunate timing...and Monday being at OTAs was, in part, an attempt of solving the cap puzzle. IMO...

Steron 07-07-2017 07:20 AM

I guess Andy didn't have a case of the Mondays.

JakeF 07-07-2017 07:23 AM

A slow linebacker who is a poor tackler. Fantastic.

ottawa_chiefs_fan 07-07-2017 10:12 AM

Can we please just devolve this into an Alex Smith thread and be done with it!?!? The anticipation is killing me!!

penbrook 07-07-2017 10:51 AM

Willie Mcginest ranked the top linebacker group in the NFL and the Chiefs are #2.

saphojunkie 07-07-2017 11:07 AM

I have no problem with this.

raybec 4 07-07-2017 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 12946822)
Not at all...purely office politics. How would it look to fire him right before his wedding...then have Reid+several current players in attendance? I'm sure the mood would be fantastic.

He fired Trip MacCracken in May...he knew the cap situation.

I would go as far to say...he had been planning on releasing him since winter. It was a touchy situation. They were shopping him...and signed Logan to a fully guaranteed 8 million contract. You dont make that move without an understanding of where the money is coming from. Maclin's wedding was unfortunate timing...and Monday being at OTAs was, in part, an attempt of solving the cap puzzle. IMO...

You're not looking at the big picture. Dorsey only waited until June 2 because he attended the Bilderberg meeting where the Jesuits decide the fate of the entire world along with the outcome of every NFL game. Once Dorsey learned the Chiefs would not be allowed to win the Super Bowl he cut Maclin so he could catch on with a team who needed him.

Clark fired Dorsey because at the Bilderberg meeting he refused to perform the Jesuit ritual child sacrifice. That's what knocked the Chiefs out of the Super Bowl running.


Stay Woke man, I expected a little more from a varsity letter man.

BlackHelicopters 07-07-2017 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by penbrook (Post 12947176)
Willie Mcginest ranked the top linebacker group in the NFL and the Chiefs are #2.

Heh

JakeF 07-07-2017 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 12946822)
Not at all...purely office politics. How would it look to fire him right before his wedding...then have Reid+several current players in attendance? I'm sure the mood would be fantastic.

He fired Trip MacCracken in May...he knew the cap situation.

I would go as far to say...he had been planning on releasing him since winter. It was a touchy situation. They were shopping him...and signed Logan to a fully guaranteed 8 million contract. You dont make that move without an understanding of where the money is coming from. Maclin's wedding was unfortunate timing...and Monday being at OTAs was, in part, an attempt of solving the cap puzzle. IMO...

Dorsey is ultimately responsible but it was MacCracken who wrote the poorly structured contracts for the Chiefs. MacCracken wrote the contracts for the players that Reid said he wanted. Dorsey was sort of stuck in the middle without much power to change certain things.

Reid demands the player, Player's Agent demands money etc and MacCracken writes the contract to give both what they wanted. Dorsey plans the draft and finds the cheap, hidden gems in free agency. Tell me again who's responsible for us being up against the cap every year?

BlackOp 07-07-2017 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 12947267)
Dorsey is ultimately responsible but it was MacCracken who wrote the poorly structured contracts for the Chiefs. MacCracken wrote the contracts for the players that Reid said he wanted. Dorsey was sort of stuck in the middle without much power to change certain things.


That is what I think happened....and led to a dysfunctional situation.

I dont think Dorsey really wanted to resign Berry and Hunt/Reid forced his hand. He was a hold over from the Pioli days and was the last wave of massive rookie contracts. If people are being honest....his performance was worth 50% of his salary prior to last season. KC had 4-5 good safeties and didn't really miss a beat when Berry went down. Word is that Berry has a lot of animosity towards Dorsey...probably because he didn't want to resign him. Hunt had to do the deal...

I think Reid forced the Maclin deal and was the one caught tampering. That was an Andy signing. It led to a 500 yard, $10 million dollar WR that was emotionally vacant last year.

If you are the GM yet dont have complete control of your roster decisions...it would be frustrating. I think Trip was a patsy...and I'm wondering if the Logan signing, which was almost 100% guaranteed, wasn't a passive/aggressive move on Dorsey's part. A kind of "**** you", this is the player I want. They knew their cap situation...it's the guys (trips) full-time job. It forced them to cut Maclin...which Reid wouldn't have allowed unless it was absolutely necessary. Which kind of makes sense with the awkward way his release went down..

Just a theory...but I think Hunt fired him for manipulating the cap to force Maclin out. Reid was pissed...and Trip took the partial blame. I think Dorsey was sick of being forced to sign expensive players he didn't think were in the best future interest of the team...and Colquitt was next.

Bowser 07-07-2017 01:03 PM

Meh

JakeF 07-07-2017 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 12947291)
That is what I think happened....and led to a dysfunctional situation.

I dont think Dorsey really wanted to resign Berry and Hunt/Reid forced his hand. He was a hold over from the Pioli days and was the last wave of massive rookie contracts. If people are being honest....his performance was worth 50% of his salary prior to last season. KC had 4-5 good safeties and didn't really miss a beat when Berry went down. Word is that Berry has a lot of animosity towards Dorsey...probably because he didn't want to resign him. Hunt had to do the deal...

I think Reid forced the Maclin deal and was the one caught tampering. That was an Andy signing. It led to a 500 yard, $10 million dollar WR that was emotionally vacant last year.

If you are the GM yet dont have complete control of your roster...it would be frustrating. I think Trip was a patsy...and I'm wondering if the Logan signing, which was almost 100% guaranteed, wasn't a passive/aggressive move on Dorsey's part. A kind of "**** you", this is the player I want. They knew their cap situation...it's the guys (trips) full-time job. It forced them to cut Maclin...which Reid wouldn't have allowed unless it was absolutely necessary. Which kind of makes sense with the awkward way his release went down..

Just a theory...but I think Hunt fired him for manipulating the cap to force Maclin out. Reid was pissed...and Trip took the fall. I think Dorsey was sick of being forced to sign expensive players he didn't think were in the best interest of the team...and Colquitt was next.

I don't know but it was certainly a strange situation. I know that Reid prefers to keep "his" guys even if they aren't really the best choice anymore. The fact that Reid signed an extension on the same day that they announced his firing was a big '**** you' message to Dorsey. Reid forced the issue and Hunt chose Reid over Dorsey. I said it once before, Clark Hunt kept the man who wanted Alex Smith and fired the man who drafted Pat Mahomes.

This was about power and Reid has almost all of it. Hunt is Reid's bitch now and so is whoever gets hired as the new GM.


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