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Bwana 11-05-2017 09:23 PM

A RB needs a hole to run through and those have been a bit sparse with this OL.

DaneMcCloud 11-05-2017 09:39 PM

The offensive line has rarely been completely healthy this season and today, LDT and especially Schwartz, had the yips.

It hasn’t helped that the Chiefs lost Conley, either, and while I can’t believe I’m saying this, the offense isn’t as effective without Albert Wilson.

I expect Hunt to have more opportunities after the Bye, as it gives the lineman a chance to get healthy and back in sync.

JohnnyV13 11-05-2017 09:55 PM

Part of it is that once the Chiefs figured out how to run against the Cowboys, they had gotten down 21-17. The next series, KC shot itself in the foot with penalties. Dallas went up 28-17.

That took 2nd half Hunt out of the game.

scho63 11-05-2017 10:25 PM

Andy Reid is the new herpes

RunKC 11-06-2017 08:07 PM

Seth Keysor
@RealMNchiefsfan
Kareem Hunt 1st drive of the 2nd half: 3 carries for 29 yards. Didn't see another carry the rest of the game. That's less than ideal.
6:59 PM · Nov 6, 2017

Last carry was with 9:51 left in the 3rd Q. Goddamnit Andy. ****ing hell fat man.

BryanBusby 11-06-2017 08:10 PM

Well people did insist that Andy use him less. He listened LMAO

gold_and_red 11-06-2017 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13204132)
Seth Keysor
@RealMNchiefsfan
Kareem Hunt 1st drive of the 2nd half: 3 carries for 29 yards. Didn't see another carry the rest of the game. That's less than ideal.
6:59 PM · Nov 6, 2017

Last carry was with 9:51 left in the 3rd Q. Goddamnit Andy. ****ing hell fat man.

Looks like we have to win inspite of Reid. Hasn’t he repeatedly said that Hunt gets stronger in the 4th quarter? 21-17 we panicked and abandoned the run, simple as that.

Sandy Vagina 11-06-2017 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyV13 (Post 13202093)
Part of it is that once the Chiefs figured out how to run against the Cowboys, they had gotten down 21-17. The next series, KC shot itself in the foot with penalties. Dallas went up 28-17.

That took 2nd half Hunt out of the game.

... but... but.. how could that TD drive have occurred? Unpossible?

Hog's Gone Fishin 11-06-2017 08:22 PM

We'll be 13-3 or 12-4 when it's all over, with or without Hunt.

Chiefshrink 11-06-2017 08:46 PM

It is a lack of "road grading ability" when needed regardless of who we have in there. We do not have physical o-linemen who can throw d-lines aside when needed like Dallas' o-line did us especially at the end of the game.

We haven't had a "mauling o-line" since 05. The beauty of our o-lines in the early to mid 90's and from 02-05 was that regardless of defenses stacking the box against us we still ran at will successfully while chewing up the clock to win. We can't do that now.

Once KH's talent was legitimized after the first few games, very physical talented defenses like PITT,DENVER and DALLAS keyed in on KH knowing they would not have to stack the box because our o-line cannot "smash mouth run block" at will. Thus can afford to set back in zone and throw us around like a rag doll keying on KH. However, if we had "road grading capability" in our o-line then it would force these talented defenses to stack the box and play more man to man that would play into our offense's hands.

And please spare me the argument of finesse vs brute strength because you can have both if you build it that way because we had that from 02-05, very athletic but very physical as well.

kgrund 11-06-2017 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyV13 (Post 13202093)
Part of it is that once the Chiefs figured out how to run against the Cowboys, they had gotten down 21-17. The next series, KC shot itself in the foot with penalties. Dallas went up 28-17.

That took 2nd half Hunt out of the game.

Well said

gold_and_red 11-06-2017 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 13204203)
It is a lack of "road grading ability" when needed regardless of who we have in there. We do not have physical o-linemen who can throw d-lines aside when needed like Dallas' o-line did us especially at the end of the game.

We haven't had a "mauling o-line" since 05. The beauty of our o-lines in the early to mid 90's and from 02-05 was that regardless of defenses stacking the box against us we still ran at will successfully while chewing up the clock to win. We can't do that now.

Once KH's talent was legitimized after the first few games, very physical talented defenses like PITT,DENVER and DALLAS keyed in on KH knowing they would not have to stack the box because our o-line cannot "smash mouth run block" at will. Thus can afford to set back in zone and throw us around like a rag doll keying on KH. However, if we had "road grading capability" in our o-line then it would force these talented defenses to stack the box and play more man to man that would play into our offense's hands.

And please spare me the argument of finesse vs brute strength because you can have both if you build it that way because we had that from 02-05, very athletic but very physical as well.

Like I have been parroting in other threads just game plan to be pass heavy and spread the action out to beyond 15 yards past the LoS. What does Brady do to Pittsburgh every time? His OL is not exactly smashmouth.
But like some others have pointed out here it looks like Pitt's coverage schemes confuse Smith, he overthinks the play. In the 4th quarter when the OL was pass blocking well it looked like Robinson would score on every play. He needs to play with that mindset from snap #1 and it is upto Reid to ensure that with preparation and scheming.

Sandy Vagina 11-06-2017 10:01 PM

Historically speaking, the NYG have also been a defense that ****s Alex up..

I dunno who they have or have at DC.. just saying.. If you do have a 4 man line that gets pressure on 5 OL? (which with KC they will i mean c'mon)..

Not a good feeling... even weeks away... :(

PAChiefsGuy 11-06-2017 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandy Vagina (Post 13204302)
Historically speaking, the NYG have also been a defense that ****s Alex up..

I dunno who they have or have at DC.. just saying.. If you do have a 4 man line that gets pressure on 5 OL? (which with KC they will i mean c'mon)..

Not a good feeling... even weeks away... :(

The Giants are horrible. There is nothing to worry about.

I mean it's the NFL every team is decent even the bad ones but I am not worried about the G-Men at all. Sleep well the game will be a blowout.

Sandy Vagina 11-06-2017 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy (Post 13204317)
The Giants are horrible. There is nothing to worry about.

I mean it's the NFL every team is decent even the bad ones but I am not worried about the G-Men at all. Sleep well the game will be a blowout.

Won't lose sleep when I think of this game. There ARE no easy games, when your defense and run game is terrible. Not one game will they play the rest of the year.. will I think no problem.. they got this...


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