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pugsnotdrugs19 02-25-2018 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13437624)
This Chiefs team is winning nothing in 2018, so it would be a detriment to the future to sign a 28 year old guy to a huge contract, only to have him at age 30 or 31 when the team is ready to compete.

I thought about this too but with Berry and Houston at 29 and Kelce at 28, I don’t think we need to throw any years away either. You never know when things are going to click together at once. They can still definitely be a playoff team in 2018 IMO.

DaneMcCloud 02-25-2018 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 13437631)
I don't think it will take that long for KC to compete again. If it does than yeah, no point in doing it.

I was referring to competing for a Super Bowl, not within the division.

Veach and Clark both said it would take 2-3 years under Veach’s plan to compete for a Super Bowl.

Given that, Veach will likely sign young players in free agency and draft as many Week 1 contributors as possible.

None of this “but he has a great ceiling!” that takes years, if ever, to realize, at least in the early rounds.

staylor26 02-25-2018 03:32 PM

Trumaine Johnson has played 16 games once in the last 4 years and is 28. Why aren’t you concerned about his availability Busby?

threebag 02-25-2018 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13437624)
This Chiefs team is winning nothing in 2018, so it would be a detriment to the future to sign a 28 year old guy to a huge contract, only to have him at age 30 or 31 when the team is ready to compete.

I am hoping a ray of sunshine hits our ass and something great falls together sooner than that. The next couple months are going to be exciting to say the least.

BryanBusby 02-25-2018 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13437646)
Trumaine Johnson has played 16 games once in the last 4 years and is 28. Why aren’t you concerned about his availability Busby?

Honestly, forgot his injury past because **** if you could convince me to watch that team in the Fisher era.

I'd probably lower him on the wish list, looking at it.

E: Jesus, so is Melvin. **** it, just draft one.

Coogs 02-25-2018 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13437532)
Personally, I think the Chiefs, at this point, need to go Safety in the 2nd round, Dline in the 3rd and maybe a CB in the 3rd, if it lines up.

That could all change once Free Agency begins.

A SS and move Berry to FS, or a FS and leave Berry at SS? Or does it matter to you?

DaneMcCloud 02-25-2018 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13437643)
I thought about this too but with Berry and Houston at 29 and Kelce at 28, I don’t think we need to throw any years away either. You never know when things are going to click together at once. They can still definitely be a playoff team in 2018 IMO.

They can be a playoff team if the Raiders, Broncos and Chargers (especially the Chargers) continue stepping on their dicks.

The AFC West was the worst division in the NFL last year and if they don’t win the division, the Chiefs are unlikely to get a wildcard because the Steelers, Bills, Patriots, Jaguars and Texans are going nowhere and there’s always a surprise team that makes the playoffs.

The Raiders and Chargers should be much more formidable in 2018.

mcaj22 02-25-2018 03:39 PM

Berry needs to play the position that puts Sorensen on the bench.

RealSNR 02-25-2018 03:40 PM

Amerson only signed a one year deal.

Even if he does prove he can turn it around, he may not be worth extending for more money than he's earning now.

More than likely this is a Tyvon Branch situation. Hope he can help us out this season. After that point, let him walk.

Iconic 02-25-2018 03:41 PM

I'd honestly rent out Talib for a year. Nobody from the FA class is worth the money and we don't have the draft capital this year to be shuffling for a corner. Draft BPA, fill the many holes on D, and let the cards fall where they may. Odds are Talib plays better than all these guys anyways.

Hoover 02-25-2018 03:46 PM

OK people. Let me walk you through some basic steps.

1. Accept that as the Chiefs transition to Mahomes, we are also retooling the team.
2. Accept the fact that we way not be a playoff team next season and Mahomes comes into his own.
3. Realize that 2019 and 2020 are the years where everything needs to be in place, not 2018.
4. I'm kind of on the Kyle Fuller bandwagon, but I'm just not sure that it makes a lot of sense to spend a bunch of FA money on the position this year.

Hoover 02-25-2018 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Iconic (Post 13437662)
I'd honestly rent out Talib for a year. Nobody from the FA class is worth the money and we don't have the draft capital this year to be shuffling for a corner. Draft BPA, fill the many holes on D, and let the cards fall where they may. Odds are Talib plays better than all these guys anyways.

Why? We are not a super bowl contender next season with Mahomes. Why blow that kind of money on a rental?

DaneMcCloud 02-25-2018 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13437643)
I thought about this too but with Berry and Houston at 29 and Kelce at 28, I don’t think we need to throw any years away either. You never know when things are going to click together at once. They can still definitely be a playoff team in 2018 IMO.

I’m not concerned with Kelce’s age.

Tony Gonzalez played until he was 37 and Jason Witten just had a Pro Bowl season at age 35.

That said, I’ll be surprised if Houston is with the Chiefs beyond the 2019 season due to his declining performance and salary cap hit.

MahiMike 02-25-2018 03:58 PM

Malcolm X

Iconic 02-25-2018 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 13437673)
Why? We are not a super bowl contender next season with Mahomes. Why blow that kind of money on a rental?

All the guys listed are young. They're looking for a long term deal, something like $10m per with plenty of guaranteed money. Why not get a much better corner in Talib, for less guaranteed money, while also ensuring the following years cap space isn't affected.

This is of course assuming Talib is interested. But who knows what that dude wants. Wouldn't be surprised of NE got to him.


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