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Imon Yourside 11-21-2018 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 13907471)
3 timeouts.
Ball on the LA 48.
1:28 left.
Why not run KHunt a few times there with the middle wide open?

OT should have been the worst outcome from that series.

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Right it's all about clock management something Reid is absolutely horrible at and seems to never realize is part of the game.

-King- 11-21-2018 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 13907850)
He probably WAS trying to hit Conley; the defender hit his arm, causing the throw to hang high, short, and wide of the intended target.

If he was trying to hit Conley he waited way too long. Conley was open for a long time, and even more so when his defender stumbled. After seeing that, I don't get why the playcall was bad. If Conley makes that catch, then the worst case scenario is that we kick a FG.
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rabblerouser 11-21-2018 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 13907868)
Right it's all about clock management something Reid is absolutely horrible at and seems to never realize is part of the game.


Full Reidtard.

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 13907911)
If he was trying to hit Conley he waited way too long. Conley was open for a long time, and even more so when his defender stumbled. After seeing that, I don't get why the playcall was bad. If Conley makes that catch, then the worst case scenario is that we kick a FG.

Either the call sucked because there were no intermediate routes attacking the (open) middle of the field - we had a timeout - or it just sucked because Mahomes plain old held the ball too long and got hit as he threw.

On that play, Reid sucked, the line sucked, the blocking sucked, the decision sucked, the timing sucked, and getting hit while he passed sucked.

There was a whole lot of suckblame to go around on that one.

ChiefsFanatic 11-23-2018 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Eleazar (Post 13906047)
Nothing to complain about last night with respect to play calling.

I disagree. We had the ball like, what, on the two yardline, and he called two option plays that ran parallel to the goal line.

We have a high powered offense, with a back like Hunt, a tight end like Kelce, a speedster like Hill, and an "Offensive Genius" calling plays, and that genius couldn't call a better play to get the ball into the endzone?

And as the game went on, except for one TD pass to Hunt, we really failed to use the defense's aggressiveness against them. Some of the plays that led to sacks and pressure on Mahomes didn't even have crossing routes, or a safety valve in the flats.

Reid called a lot of plays that had routes which took time to develop. Time the offensive line could not deliver.

Reid was obviously aware that we had second string, and third string, backup offensive linemen trying to block the best defensive player in the NFL. Not only were we trying to block Donald with backups, but Reid saw the game tape from the previous week where Seattle ran all over the Rams, negating some of Donald's dominance. But did Reid take any cues from that Seattle game? No.

Did our offense score 44 points? Yes. But was the play calling without error? HELL NO. And Reid also showed once again that he doesn't have the ability to manage the clock at the end of games.

Overall, the Chiefs played great offensively, and it does seem silly to suggest that a team that scored 44 points on offense could have done better, but the truth is the play calling could have been better.

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BigRedChief 11-23-2018 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 13907471)
3 timeouts.
Ball on the LA 48.
1:28 left.
Why not run KHunt a few times there with the middle wide open?

OT should have been the worst outcome from that series.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...7e5959b3bd.jpg

I've criticized Reid for being too conservative with his play calling late in games. But, this was a situation to run the ball and eat the clock up.


That being said, you play to win the game.

KChiefs1 11-23-2018 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 13910575)
I've criticized Reid for being too conservative with his play calling late in games. But, this was a situation to run the ball and eat the clock up.


That being said, you play to win the game.


It’s hard to try & not to score quickly there. I just think a few runs to get the clock below 45 seconds would have been nice.

Situational football is difficult but I feel that’s where Belichick & Brady are geniuses.

staylor26 11-23-2018 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 13907911)
If he was trying to hit Conley he waited way too long. Conley was open for a long time, and even more so when his defender stumbled. After seeing that, I don't get why the playcall was bad. If Conley makes that catch, then the worst case scenario is that we kick a FG.
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It’s because you’re dealing with a bunch of ****ing morons. The playcall was fine. He clearly had Conley for an easy 1st down and more.

If Andy ran Hunt up the middle “a few times” for no gain they’d bitch about that too. Reid can’t ****ing win. He’s either too aggressive or too conservative with these butt****ing morons. As long as he’s being aggressive, you won’t hear me complaining.

O.city 11-23-2018 11:23 AM

Mahomes stayed on hill too long there. He needed to come to Conley earlier and throw it

It happens. I’d wait and give hill as much time as I could too

O.city 11-23-2018 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13907813)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I&#39;m gonna guess Andy Reid would like this playcall back. <br><br>This is pretty aggressive down 3 from the 49 with 1:28 left and three timeouts. <a href="https://t.co/XtGFSo5Y7T">pic.twitter.com/XtGFSo5Y7T</a></p>&mdash; Clay W. (name withheld) (@ClayW. (name withheld)) <a href="https://twitter.com/ClayW. (name withheld)/status/1064772898311888896?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 20, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Embarrassingly bad playcall here. Andy went full Reidtard. Let’s review:

-Not a single intermediate route in the middle of the goddamn field against the best pass rusher in football who has killed you all night holding the ball. Did we not learn that long developing plays can’t happen against this team? Why in this situation? If Conley’s route simply breaks across the field around the first down marker instead of continuing to go downfield, Pat most likely throws it earlier to a wide open receiver.
-Conley beats his man but his route goes toward the other receivers route is (Robinson?).
-why the **** are we going for it all on 1st down at the LA 48 with 1:28 left in the game and all of our timeouts? Wtf Andy?
-Watkins is already out of the game and you effectively took Kelce out of the play too as a blocker while having Kareem be an option in the flat instead of an intermediate option.

Pure, dumbfounding unapologetic bullshit. That INT isn’t on Mahomes. It’s on ****ing Andy.

Conley is open on an intermediate route in the middle of the field. They rolled the pocket to get away from Donald

Pat needs to throw it to Conley when he’s open

RunKC 11-23-2018 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 13907911)
If he was trying to hit Conley he waited way too long. Conley was open for a long time, and even more so when his defender stumbled. After seeing that, I don't get why the playcall was bad. If Conley makes that catch, then the worst case scenario is that we kick a FG.
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Mahomes didn’t throw it to Conley quickly because he was looking at Tyreek first.

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RunKC 11-23-2018 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 13910575)
I've criticized Reid for being too conservative with his play calling late in games. But, this was a situation to run the ball and eat the clock up.


That being said, you play to win the game.

You have to be smart. Andy is running a play with 3 receivers going long.

You score and the Rams have over a minute to win it. It was 1st and 10 and we had all 3 time outs.

Run the clock

O.city 11-23-2018 11:48 AM

I don’t think Conley scores there though. I’m guessing he’s tackled at about the 15

WhiteWhale 11-23-2018 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13910754)
You have to be smart. Andy is running a play with 3 receivers going long.

You score and the Rams have over a minute to win it. It was 1st and 10 and we had all 3 time outs.

Run the clock

With a minute and a half, 3 timeouts at midfield, and a 3 point game basically everything was an option.

The only thing you really want to avoid is a quick score or a sack. So... avoid deep drops.

Quick passes and runs.

I have a feeling Andy was feeling pretty invincible at that point.

WhiteWhale 11-23-2018 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 13906350)
I refuse to listen to complaints about play calling when the Chiefs put 51 points on the board.

I'd be pleased to listen to discussion and comment about defensive decisions when the team gives up 54.

The problem is that KC's offense scored some of those 54 FOR the Rams.

NJChiefsFan 11-23-2018 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13910706)
It’s because you’re dealing with a bunch of ****ing morons. The playcall was fine. He clearly had Conley for an easy 1st down and more.

If Andy ran Hunt up the middle “a few times” for no gain they’d bitch about that too. Reid can’t ****ing win. He’s either too aggressive or too conservative with these butt****ing morons. As long as he’s being aggressive, you won’t hear me complaining.

I tend to agree with your overall point, but at the same time if we are in the SB against the Rams or to me even worse, the Saints, idk what I would do. Most of me feels you just get the TD and hope for the best.

That being said, I trust the offense to drain the clock and still get a TD more than I trust the D to protect the lead afterwards. If Berry is back that would affect it as well. I would say with the Saints, I would really consider risking it by draining the clock. Brees is not likely to throw a ball to Scandrick. I personally would not blame Reid for taking that approach. I really don't blame him for the approach he took either.


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