We'd have to actually go back and view those games independently to see if the Pats were even running pick plays against those teams.

Every game is different, every Sunday.

I'm explaining to you what happened YESTERDAY, in THAT game.

Sutton will be fired. Or should be at least.

That isn't even my argument here.

My argument is that we don't need banners or over the top dramatics that make our fan base look like cry babies.

Let the F/O handle it. They will. Yeah, believe it or not, they have eyes and they self-evaluate.

2016 Berry isn’t walking through that door.

On the big play EB game up in OT:

“ The pass play to Gronkowski, which gave the Patriots a first down at the Chiefs’ 15, was not in the game plan. New England has run the Gronk slant before, but hadn’t planned to run it here, and the only play they called that wasn’t planned turned out quite possibly to be the biggest play of their day. As the 40-second play clock wound down, <b>offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels called the play they hadn’t practiced during the week because the coaches saw a coverage deficiency by Kansas City safety Eric Berry on Gronkowski </b>.”

Those of us who spent 2k to watch Eric Berry get torched by an elderly Gronk and Bob Sutton run a vanilla man-to-man scheme 90% of the game might feel differently.

Berry doesn’t play because he’s not 100% and people say he’s a brokedick loser.

Berry plays at less than 100% and performs as such and he’s a brokedick loser.

We’re all frustrated with his situation. But for every dollar that you raise for an anti-Berry banner, I will personally put 2x that into a banner supporting him.

This shouldn’t be who we are as fans. It’s poor form.

No, no we don't. Unless you're suggesting the Pats didn't run Pick-Plays because they were tired of winning, why would they abandon plays that are guaranteed to produce victories? Especially since they'd have Tom Terrific running them!

Simply put, you can't sell-out on man or zone coverage to the point that any QB can know for sure what D you're going to play (a skill), and you have to get your bump off the line. They'll send men in motion to try to make you show your cards, but you get paid to know how to stay cool. But I'm sure you knew that and will default to Tom being God's real son..

I guess we lost this game before it started, the moment the Chiefs, like you, were convinced that the pick-play is impossible for humans to defend.

He's not a brokedick loser, but his time is up.

Somehow I don't think you are equally frustrated, perhaps the $2K part is the difference? :shrug: Either way, this will be interesting if it plays out...

:popcorn:

I disagree.

He’s the mostly highly paid safety in NFL history for a reason. He made way too much $$ as the #5 pick with the old, asenine rookie scale. He’s (so far) earned $0 of his new megadeal, which handicaps our ability to win a SB.

He’s gotta go.

So we just muse like bratty children about flying banners about people whose “time is up”? Who were All Pros on a HOF path and then returned from cancer?

The team paid him. He’s been injured. Every defensive player still gushes about his influence. He’s grossly overpaid vs production. I’m sure he knows that. Many of you think that doesn’t mean anything to him and he just wants to collect his paycheck. Yet you have no evidence that this is the person whom he is. In fact, plenty argues the opposite. Many of you are just projecting.

Whether he has the same drive now, I have no idea.

But his body is breaking down. You can’t have a $15M cap hit on a guy that’s in the tub.

The Pats and BB would never keep EB around, and just because we’re polite midwesterns, we shouldn’t either

2k? I spent far more than that this weekend attending the game and providing the same opportunity for others. Pretty sure that’s not relevant.

Then blame the team for committing this money to him. I’m fine with that. But Berry? He shouldn’t be the object of your derision.

Every one of you would’ve fought for every last dollar had you been in his shoes.

I guess we will find out soon enough. They brought back Sutton this year and blamed the players but the defense ended up way worse. Everybody and their mother knew Sutton needed to be fired last year but no they couldn't make the obvious decision. So yeah maybe they are to close to see the problem(s).

You paint a very nice picture of a man who won't tell the adoring fans what's wrong. I know he doesn't have to because of HIPPA laws 'n such, but you need to respect that people who are getting "it's complicated" out of the highest paid safety in the league talking about why he can't play, don't have to be nice.

Want to know why "we" (because I'm in the crowd) think he's just milking the system? That's why, he won't even bother to explain what's going on for us understand his situation, much less to feel sorry for him.

**** him... He can take his money and leave. He can suffer in silence on a beach somewhere and run Zumba classes.