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Sorry 02-06-2019 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14094182)
Yeah because that is toms only legit elite talent besides Edelman lmao. Imagine if bill actually tried to make toms life easier

tk13 02-06-2019 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by InChiefsHell (Post 14094492)
If he retires, they'll plug someone else in. The only way that dynasty ends is if Tom or Bellichek retire. Face it fellas, we're gonna have to just beat these ****ers. Almost did it twice this year. With a little better defense and Mahommes getting his stride...we got this. With or without Gronk. But don't count out the damn Patriots. It's just not smart...
They have plenty of draft picks. They have an extra 2nd and 3rd and might get some compensatory picks for guys they lost. They often seem to trade back and accumulate picks, but if they want to draft a TE they'll have the picks to do whatever they want.

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-06-2019 08:03 PM
Jermaine Wiggins is all I got. Ben Watson came a little later.

Rain Man 02-06-2019 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 14094672)
I want the Pats with all their weapons next year while Mahomes and spags unleash the fury the league is about to witness.
I want the Pats with none of their weapons next year. I want them to go 0-16 and lose every game by 40 points unless they're playing the Broncos, Raiders, or Chargers, in which case I may or may not want them to win, depending on the playoff scenarios.

Angry fan 02-06-2019 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 14094768)
Not if criminally ****ing reeruned defensive coordinators don't start taking away the short throws and making his old ass beat them deep. It won't be a problem at all.

GOD **** Bob Sutton.
It's not about the deep throws. Brady can throw it deep. It's about throwing outside the numbers. That's what defenses need to do. Wade Phillips did exactly that for a lot of the game.

Buehler445 02-07-2019 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Angry fan (Post 14094986)
It's not about the deep throws. Brady can throw it deep. It's about throwing outside the numbers. That's what defenses need to do. Wade Phillips did exactly that for a lot of the game.
It's about not giving him the easy shit because he won't miss that. Just like any defensive strategy SHOULD - challenge the offense to do what they don't do well.

Why Not? 02-07-2019 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 14094806)
Jermaine Wiggins is all I got. Ben Watson came a little later.
Christian Fauria

JD10367 02-07-2019 06:36 AM
There are only two people who matter: Belichick and Brady.

I think he’s retiring, unless Brady convinces him to do one more season.

dlphg9 02-07-2019 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 14094996)
It's about not giving him the easy shit because he won't miss that. Just like any defensive strategy SHOULD - challenge the offense to do what they don't do well.
You mean giving the receivers a 10 yard cushion every play and letting them run free wasnt working?

dlphg9 02-07-2019 07:40 AM
Also is Gronk really a HoFer. He played his entire career with one of the best QBs to ever play.

Gronkowski career stats 9 years playing
521 rec 7861 yds 15.1 avg 79 tds

Jimmy Graham career stats 9 years playing
611 rec 7436 yds 12.2 avg 71 tds

If you think old Rob is a HoFer then you have to think Jim is too.

Amnorix 02-07-2019 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Angry fan (Post 14094457)
No it wasn't. You're blind as **** if you think Gronkowski's blocking was good this season. Watch that 1st Bills game on Monday Night Football and tell me if you thought Gronkowski looked right. He wasn't able to wham block 300 pound lineman anymore. He was losing blocks against edge defenders. He looked old and broken down even in blocking when he was hurting. He looked like the tight ends of this generation who couldn't block if their lives depended on it.

He wans't right alot of the season, but by the playoffs he was blocking at an elite level.

Amnorix 02-07-2019 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 14094504)
We beat that team.

Except that you didn't because your guy's (Ford's) mistake cancelled out our guy's (Gronk and/or Brady, as you wish to divide responsibility between them) mistake.

This whole "we won if we didn't **** up because our **** up cancelled their **** up" argument doesn't make much sense. Yeah, your guy ****ed up, which cancelled our guy's **** up. But why should your guy not have ****ed up, but our guy should still have ****ed up? Kinda dumb tbh.

Amnorix 02-07-2019 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 14094772)
I imagine Belicheat will just sign some undersized Tackle and work on his hands a bit.

That's pretty much all Gronk was this year, and they're obviously committed to at least having the power run game as an option.

It's my understanding that injuries were a big part of that. In the SB he had nearly 100 yards receiving and was very good blocking. If he comes back, and if he has a healthy year, then he should once again be among the best TEs in the NFL, if not THE best.

stevieray 02-07-2019 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 14095195)
Except that you didn't because your guy's (Ford's) mistake cancelled out our guy's (Gronk and/or Brady, as you wish to divide responsibility between them) mistake.

This whole "we won if we didn't **** up because our **** up cancelled their **** up" argument doesn't make much sense. Yeah, your guy ****ed up, which cancelled our guy's **** up. But why should your guy not have ****ed up, but our guy should still have ****ed up? Kinda dumb tbh.
Truth hurts.

You''ll live, gloater.

Amnorix 02-07-2019 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 14094806)
Jermaine Wiggins is all I got. Ben Watson came a little later.

That's pretty damn good. Fauria (who someone else named) and Daniel Graham (pretty much a bust of a first round pick) are others.

Then there's that murderer guy. I prefer not to speak about him...

And of course Martellus Bennett. Short stay but big contributor.


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