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Skyy God 11-29-2019 06:41 AM

Deberg or getting hit by a truck?

chiefzilla1501 11-29-2019 07:52 AM

I'm not convinced Allen can make all the throws. Don't get me wrong, the guy can fire the ball and throw off platform. But he seems to zing every single ball he throws. Mahomes may throw the ball hard but he also throws a lot of balls with touch. I don't know that Allen can do that. He takes what he's given. What will he do when he's gotta put up points in a hurry? For lamar, he just can't throw the ball. For Josh allen, I think you could easily force mistakes under pressure.

Deberg_1990 11-29-2019 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 14623515)
I'm not convinced Allen can make all the throws. Don't get me wrong, the guy can fire the ball and throw off platform. But he seems to zing every single ball he throws. Mahomes may throw the ball hard but he also throws a lot of balls with touch. I don't know that Allen can do that. He takes what he's given. What will he do when he's gotta put up points in a hurry? For lamar, he just can't throw the ball. For Josh allen, I think you could easily force mistakes under pressure.

He’s still learning , but his upside is tremendous.

I like that there’s a lot of good young QB talent for Mahomes to compete against in the AFC right now.

stevieray 11-29-2019 08:16 AM

:rolleyes:

do you talk to your wife about how great other women are?

chiefzilla1501 11-29-2019 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 14623519)
He’s still learning , but his upside is tremendous.

I like that there’s a lot of good young QB talent for Mahomes to compete against in the AFC right now.

Yeah, I've said before that in a redraft, the browns should have taken allen. Then lamar. Then baker. In that draft.

I think he's being groomed as a game manager. Which might actually be good for his career because being thrown in an aerial offense like mahomes was might have turned him into a gunslinger.

Chris Meck 11-29-2019 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 14623515)
I'm not convinced Allen can make all the throws. Don't get me wrong, the guy can fire the ball and throw off platform. But he seems to zing every single ball he throws. Mahomes may throw the ball hard but he also throws a lot of balls with touch. I don't know that Allen can do that. He takes what he's given. What will he do when he's gotta put up points in a hurry? For lamar, he just can't throw the ball. For Josh allen, I think you could easily force mistakes under pressure.

Neither did Favre. Or Elway, for that matter.

But the game has changed, so who knows?

I think he's a tough kid, and he's playing well. If they coach him well and surround him with some more talent, I think they'll be in the mix every year.

DTVietnam 11-29-2019 08:29 AM

well Allen def runs the QB sneak better

Chris Meck 11-29-2019 08:35 AM

In the young guns comparison, I don't think there's any real question it's Mahomes and then everyone else.

Jackson is the 'soup of the day', but that style of play has never lasted long. He's a problem, and he's improving the other aspects of his game. Still, we've beat him twice in the last 12 months.

Watson is pretty damned good. Allen is coming on. Interesting that Goff, Wenske, and Mayfield have all taken steps backward.

At any rate, I'm glad to see the changing of the guard. I'm so sick of the Manning(s)/Brady/Raperburger era.

Bring on the new blood.

ChiTown 11-29-2019 09:07 AM

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MahiMike 11-29-2019 09:10 AM

I thought Allen was the best QB in that draft. I think he still is.

stevieray 11-29-2019 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 14623537)
In the young guns comparison, I don't think there's any real question it's Mahomes and then everyone else.

Jackson is the 'soup of the day', but that style of play has never lasted long. He's a problem, and he's improving the other aspects of his game. Still, we've beat him twice in the last 12 months.

Watson is pretty damned good. Allen is coming on. Interesting that Goff, Wenske, and Mayfield have all taken steps backward.

At any rate, I'm glad to see the changing of the guard. I'm so sick of the Manning(s)/Brady/Raperburger era.

Bring on the new blood.

Amen....almost two decades of three QB's winning everything.

FloridaMan88 11-29-2019 09:57 AM

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Rasputin 11-29-2019 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14623144)
Deberg or Hitler? Who’s worse?

:hmmm:

lcarus 11-29-2019 10:11 AM

I think we underestimate just how much a little white guy WR means to a championship team. Cole Beasley is a poor mans Wes Welker. We had our shot with Cody Thompson and we blew it.

loochy 11-29-2019 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 14623621)
I think we underestimate just how much a little white guy WR means to a championship team. Cole Beasley is a poor mans Wes Welker. We had our shot with Cody Thompson and we blew it.

Dieter is kinda white...


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