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ptlyon 12-06-2019 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 14636827)
Some of you guys are way too over confident


Patriots are not going down without a fight. It won’t be easy at all.

It's hard to beat a team and the refs too

RobertWeathers 12-06-2019 09:13 AM

Shank is total and complete disingenuous, trolling fraud. 95% of his articles bash to Patriots. Additionally he knows nothing about football.

stevieray 12-06-2019 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 14636827)


Patriots are not going down without a fight. It won’t be easy at all.

Thanks, Captain Obvious!

Glad you picked them for the WIN!

Way to go!

2bikemike 12-06-2019 11:30 AM

The Patriots are the team I most enjoy watching lose. It would make my year to watch them get their ass handed to them Sunday!

AdolfOliverBush 12-06-2019 11:36 AM

"We all know that there is a Never Patriots movement in the deep state of NFL America."


Down Syndrome confirmed.

BlackHelicopters 12-06-2019 11:39 AM

Patriots are far from done, despite my wishes otherwise.

rabblerouser 12-06-2019 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by RobertWeathers (Post 14636861)
Shank is total and complete disingenuous, trolling fraud. 95% of his articles bash to Patriots. Additionally he knows nothing about football.

Obviously.

Your team sign a kicker yet?

Eleazar 12-06-2019 12:00 PM

They’re still well coached and well quarterbacked which are the two main things. Will always be a tough game especially on the road.

Strangely this one might not mean much and we will likely end up going back there in a month so :shrug:

rabblerouser 12-06-2019 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Eleazar (Post 14637232)
They’re still well coached and well quarterbacked which are the two main things. Will always be a tough game especially on the road.

Strangely this one might not mean much and we will likely end up going back there in a month so :shrug:

Means a lot with regard to playoff seeding.

Buffalo beats Baltimore and we win out, it could very well be Buffalo #1 and us #2, we hold the head-to-head tiebreaker over Baltimore...and if we have the same record as Buffalo we have the tiebreaker over them because of our strength of schedule.

A first round bye isn't out of the question.

Deberg_1990 12-06-2019 12:12 PM

Going to Buffalo in January would be a nightmare for any team. It’s one of the reasons they kept winning the AFC Back in the early 90s.

rabblerouser 12-06-2019 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 14637269)
Going to Buffalo in January would be a nightmare for any team. It’s one of the reasons they kept winning the AFC Back in the early 90s.

Oh, I remember. We lost there twice in the early 90s.

I remember a 44-3 beat down of the Raiders where Raiders were just huddled around the heater. They didn't care about the game, they just wanted to get warm.

That being said, it's a big reason why the Pats have so many rings, as well - beat down on the Bills (who weren't good for many of the 15 years between 2003-2017), Jets and Dolphins for 6 extra bye weeks, win at least half of the remaining games, win the division and home field, then teams have to come play in the brutal NE January cold.

6 one way, half dozen the other.

Eleazar 12-06-2019 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 14637259)
Means a lot with regard to playoff seeding.

Buffalo beats Baltimore and we win out, it could very well be Buffalo #1 and us #2, we hold the head-to-head tiebreaker over Baltimore...and if we have the same record as Buffalo we have the tiebreaker over them because of our strength of schedule.

A first round bye isn't out of the question.

All I'm saying is that the real chances of the Chiefs getting a bye are pretty remote.

Having four very winnable games against the Colts, Texans, Titans, and Packers and losing all four of them has hosed us for playoff seeding. Even one win among those four games would probably have us in the driver's seat with a win this weekend. As it stands, our chances with a win Sunday are still pretty slim.

We should probably just anticipate that any path to the Super Bowl would have to involve winning road games in both Baltimore and New England.

Hog's Gone Fishin 12-06-2019 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Eleazar (Post 14637232)
They’re still well coached and well quarterbacked which are the two main things. Will always be a tough game especially on the road.

Strangely this one might not mean much and we will likely end up going back there in a month so :shrug:

They are Not well quarterbacked. Brady throws to a spot 10 yards away from the receiver and then yells at them for not being there.

That's just ****ing dumb. Brady is about done. Bet this is his last year.

Clyde Frog 12-06-2019 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 14637349)
They are Not well quarterbacked. Brady throws to a spot 10 yards away from the receiver and then yells at them for not being there.

That's just ****ing dumb. Brady is about done. Bet this is his last year.

Can't wait to 2-0 and retire his bitch-ass to Thailand where he can make out with pre-pubescent boys to his heart's content.

Megatron96 12-06-2019 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 14637349)
They are Not well quarterbacked. Brady throws to a spot 10 yards away from the receiver and then yells at them for not being there.

That's just ****ing dumb. Brady is about done. Bet this is his last year.

Not to argue, but that throw by Brady was more on the WR than Brady, IMO. The WR was supposed to take his route up-field, I think, but basically stopped at the sideline instead.

Make no mistake, Tom Brady is still a very good QB.

But this season he lacks any real weapons, his OL is not good, and Sony Michel has significantly regressed this season.

Bottom line, the Patriots aren't going to be nearly as efficient moving the ball this time around without Gronk carving up our defense, their OL is going to have trouble dealing with our pass rush, Brady is going to have to throw into much tighter windows against our top-10 secondary, and Michel isn't going to run for 5+ yards per carry either.

Their defense is going to have to carry most of the water for this match-up, and it's essentially the same defense they had from last year. A defense that Pat threw 7 TDs on, more than 450 yards, and a passer rating over 133. Their defense is going to have to play nearly a perfect game. Maybe the best performance of the season for them to have a chance of winning this game.

Meanwhile, our defense only has to play relatively mistake-free, but just a solid game; they don't have to be perfect against that Pats offense. Just good enough. Say, 80-90% of how they played against DEN.

And the Chiefs offense doesn't need a spectacular game either. They don't need Pat to throw 4 TDs, 400 yards, etc. Again, that's not the same Pats offense from last year. Our offense needs to score just their average of 30 points or so and the Pats probably won't be able to keep up. They've averaged less than 20 points in their last 4 games.

It won't be easy, because they're still the Patriots, but this is definitely the most vulnerable Patriot team we've ever seen in 20 years. The Chiefs just need to not beat themselves and start fast, and we should beat these guys.


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