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RunKC 02-10-2020 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 14788127)
Fisher to count $15,231,666 on the Cap.

Cam Erving - $4,681,668

LDT - $9,000,000

Reiter - $3,758,334

That is a lot of money for mediocre talent that have a long injury history.

You would think watching the offense struggle without Fisher would be proof enough. You don’t cut him. He’s too valuable.

And replacing him with be damn hard. A decent LT like Fisher is not easy to find.

Gravedigger 02-10-2020 10:37 AM

I don't think Chris Jones cares at this point. He came back for the playoffs and made a difference on the way to being apart of a Super Bowl winning team. A huge payday is looming for him regardless of where it is, his check is signed.

DRM08 02-10-2020 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14788136)
That won’t happen. It’s too obvious, players union will lose their shit

They’ve allowed Brady to do that for years.

pugsnotdrugs19 02-10-2020 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 14788143)
They’ve allowed Brady to do that for years.

This is true... idk, not sure how it all works as far as if they can prevent it

Chiefspants 02-10-2020 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 14788127)
Fisher to count $15,231,666 on the Cap.

Cam Erving - $4,681,668

LDT - $9,000,000

Reiter - $3,758,334

That is a lot of money for mediocre talent that have a long injury history.

Yet, when they were injured, we saw how important they were with the alternatives we had. That was a rough stretch when an injured Mahomes was playing behind a juco o-line.

jjchieffan 02-10-2020 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14788118)
The NFLPA may not let that happen. I’m not sure how much power they hold with that stuff but I can’t see it being less than $35M.

Then the NFLPA is stupid. Wait. Of course they are. They're too dumb to realize that quarterbacks getting 18-29% of the cap doesn't help anyone but quarterbacks and it hurts everyone else. It's not the Chiefs are going to spend less of the cap if Mahomes takes less. The players are still getting their $200 or so million. But the other 52 will only get a piece of $160 million instey of a piece of $175 million. I don't understand why the NFLPA can't see that. They should want quarterback salaries to stay reasonable. Besides, if Mahomes takes $125 million or $200 million, he will still have earned more money in that one contract than he could possibly ever spend. What's the point of any of it after that point?

nychief 02-10-2020 10:41 AM

I think Fisher will be renegotiated and extended... LDT and Reiter are possible cuts. I think we'll draft some Linemen early this season.

pugsnotdrugs19 02-10-2020 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 14788152)
Then the NFLPA is stupid. Wait. Of course they are. They're too dumb to realize that quarterbacks getting 18-29% of the cap doesn't help anyone but quarterbacks and it hurts everyone else. It's not the Chiefs are going to spend less of the cap if Mahomes takes less. The players are still getting their $200 or so million. But the other 52 will only get a piece of $160 million instey of a piece of $175 million. I don't understand why the NFLPA can't see that. They should want quarterback salaries to stay reasonable. Besides, if Mahomes takes $125 million or $200 million, he will still have earned more money in that one contract than he could possibly ever spend. What's the point of any of it after that point?

You won’t hear any rebuttal from me on that, it makes sense. I just know that’s how that stuff works.

If Mahomes sells it as “I just want my teammates to make more”, then it may work in that way.

Danguardace 02-10-2020 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 14788149)
Yet, when they were injured, we saw how important they were with the alternatives we had. That was a rough stretch when an injured Mahomes was playing behind a juco o-line.


As great as Mahomes is he needs to a good team around him

Mahomes $Rich + Good Team = Great Team (Patriots)

Mahomes $Super Rich + Mediocre Team = Good Team (Seattle)

pugsnotdrugs19 02-10-2020 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by nychief (Post 14788155)
I think Fisher will be renegotiated and extended... LDT and Reiter are possible cuts. I think we'll draft some Linemen early this season.

Fisher is a good tackle but can be upgraded if they try over the next couple years in spots. I’d rather draft a tackle in the next couple years than extend him.

The Franchise 02-10-2020 10:44 AM

Aaron Donald is getting $22.5 million a year. I don’t see Jones as worth that much. Fletcher Cox is getting $17.1 per year. I’d give Jones $18-18.5 a season.

jjchieffan 02-10-2020 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14788157)
You won’t hear any rebuttal from me on that, it makes sense. I just know that’s how that stuff works.

If Mahomes sells it as “I just want my teammates to make more”, then it may work in that way.

I agree. And I wasn't arguing with you, if you took it that way. I was about to post that anyway, your post just hit the subject first, so I replied to it.

pugsnotdrugs19 02-10-2020 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14788164)
Aaron Donald is getting $22.5 million a year. I don’t see Jones as worth that much. Fletcher Cox is getting $17.1 per year. I’d give Jones $18-18.5 a season.

On the open market Jones may get more though...

bsp4444 02-10-2020 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14788134)
Say Mahomes takes $37-38M per here in a couple months. If he beats Dak and Prescott, it’ll be a bargain in no time. They’ll get more.

Those two are probably just going to wait it out for Patrick and if you want money, then you should.

Dak AND Prescott? Both of them? You don’t say...:hmmm:

Eleazar 02-10-2020 10:47 AM

Players like Chris Jones do not hit the open market when they are in their prime.


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