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BryanBusby 04-17-2020 11:56 AM

When I look over the possible options, I think the best option would be to move down.

Just don't think there's much of a dip with talent at the spots of need going from 32 to say...the mid to late 2nd round.

DaneMcCloud 04-17-2020 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14913874)
What smoke? That we’ve interviewed with him? That’s all I’ve seen.

Supposedly, they've interviewed him multiple times and for whatever it's worth, he's been mocked to the Chiefs by several mockers this draft season.

I don't really put much stock in what the bozos at CBS Sports and SI have to say but it's been a fairly common theme throughout to see Dobbins go the Chiefs at #32.

But considering these sites are nearly always wrong about every pick, whether it's 1-10 or 11-250, I don't put much, if any, stock into their reports.

Peter King is usually reliable but he has extensive contacts and generally only publishes his mock the week of the draft. All of the other guys are just guessing to the best of their ability, which is generally pretty poor.

DaneMcCloud 04-17-2020 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 14913909)
When I look over the possible options, I think the best option would be to move down.

Just don't think there's much of a dip with talent at the spots of need going from 32 to say...the mid to late 2nd round.

Holy crap, I wouldn't want to go from 32 to 48! That's just too far.

I could see them moving down to 33-40 but anything past that would require a 2nd round pick in 2021, at the very least, in addition to multiple 2020 picks.

BryanBusby 04-17-2020 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 14913913)
Holy crap, I wouldn't want to go from 32 to 48! That's just too far.

I could see them moving down to 33-40 but anything past that would require a 2nd round pick in 2021, at the very least, in addition to multiple 2020 picks.

I wouldn't mind moving down with lets say the Jets for 48 and 79.

DaneMcCloud 04-17-2020 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 14913918)
I wouldn't mind moving down with lets say the Jets for 48 and 79.

That's just not enough to move from #32 overall, IMO.

Throw in a 5th and a 2020 2nd or 3rd, then maybe.

BryanBusby 04-17-2020 12:05 PM

I think there will be a lot of teams in the late first that will be looking to sell. Gonna be hard to leverage value.

DaneMcCloud 04-17-2020 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 14913928)
I think there will be a lot of teams in the late first that will be looking to sell. Gonna be hard to leverage value.

Well if that's the case, there will be plenty of talent at #32, so they can just sit and take their guy.

BryanBusby 04-17-2020 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 14913934)
Well if that's the case, there will be plenty of talent at #32, so they can just sit and take their guy.

Maybe. I think it's possible Swift, Murray and Queen and both DE's are gone by 32.

What would be the target at that point? I think you can slide down quite a bit and still land either Akers or Dobbins. I'm not high on Delpit like others are. Corner depth is absurd.

I'd probably do it.

Sassy Squatch 04-17-2020 12:15 PM

5th year option is way more valuable than sliding down that far.

DaneMcCloud 04-17-2020 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 14913947)
5th year option is way more valuable than sliding down that far.

No, it's really not. Have you read the new CBA?

RunKC 04-17-2020 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 14913928)
I think there will be a lot of teams in the late first that will be looking to sell. Gonna be hard to leverage value.

Yip

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is calm-before-the-storm period when NFL execs call around trying to gauge trade interest. Hearing many teams in mid-to-late 1st are looking to move down and accumulate Day 2 picks. Feeling is you can get same level of player in 40-60 range as in the 20’s.</p>&mdash; Jim Nagy (@JimNagy_SB) <a href="https://twitter.com/JimNagy_SB/status/1251110827660316672?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 17, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

staylor26 04-17-2020 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14913979)
Yip

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is calm-before-the-storm period when NFL execs call around trying to gauge trade interest. Hearing many teams in mid-to-late 1st are looking to move down and accumulate Day 2 picks. Feeling is you can get same level of player in 40-60 range as in the 20’s.</p>&mdash; Jim Nagy (@JimNagy_SB) <a href="https://twitter.com/JimNagy_SB/status/1251110827660316672?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 17, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

And the further back you are, the harder it’s going to be.

If we trade down it’s going to be for a discount.

The good thing is, if a few trades happen before our pick, somebody exciting could fall into our lap unexpectedly.

DaneMcCloud 04-17-2020 01:03 PM

Tua scored a 13 on the Wonderlic test.

I wonder if that will accelerate his fall?

RunKC 04-17-2020 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14914000)
And the further back you are, the harder it’s going to be.

If we trade down it’s going to be for a discount.

The good thing is, if a few trades happen before our pick, somebody exciting could fall into our lap unexpectedly.

It really depends on how the board falls, but it will be tough regardless. That’s why I think Veach should take any deal he can get as long as it involves at least a 4th rd pick.

Eason and Hurts are players teams want to get a 5th year option on, but the problem for us is that 2 of the teams that reportedly have strong interest in Hurts are in our division.

KChiefs1 04-17-2020 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 14912568)
I love Terez but disagree that we need to take a RB in the first round to groom for the future.


Drafting a RB in the first round would be foolish. Andy can turn chickenshit into chicken salad. I do agree that a RB needs to be drafted in the top 100 but not the first round. Edwards-Helaire can be had in the 2nd round.

Go with the best available at LB, CB & IOL.

Murray
Queen
Henderson
Fulton
Diggs
Dantzler
Igbinoghene
Ruiz


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