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BWillie 05-03-2020 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 14949472)
Upgrade over Dak

Inaccurate.

BryanBusby 05-03-2020 02:28 AM

You'd have to be a braindead dipshit to think Andy is better than Dak. There's a reason the Bengals said yeah **** him, lets cut him for a rookie.

Dak is good while Andy is average in literally ****ing everything. Dak just isn't reset the market good.

Problem for Jerruh is they drafted so well he might have a good enough year to justify resetting the market if a Pat extension doesn't happen beforehand.

chiefzilla1501 05-03-2020 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by KCJake (Post 14949797)
It's closer than you think. If Dak is better, it's not by much.

No, it really isn't. Dak is a legit starting qb. Not top 5 but easily top 10. Dalton is a borderline starter at best. He went to the free agent market and got a backup contract. That tells you everything you need to know.

BWillie 05-03-2020 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 14949850)
No, it really isn't. Dak is a legit starting qb. Not top 5 but easily top 10. Dalton is a borderline starter at best. He went to the free agent market and got a backup contract. That tells you everything you need to know.

Yeap.

Dak is a big time player. He's not quite good enough, but comparing him to Andy ****ing Dalton is just foolish. He's clearly a full tier higher than Dalton...and younger...and has legs. Dak with all the weapons Jerry got for him is going to have a monster year next year. The Cowboys will still find a way to piss it away, but he's a good, almost great player.

Andy Dalton is the 30th best QB in the NFL, maybe. I'd rather have ****ing Nick Foles than Andy Dalton. He also probably doesn't even have a full soul being a red hair and all.

Oxford 05-03-2020 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by threebag02 (Post 14949576)
Maybe he needs a caress on the nape of his neck, a taint lick and a vigorous reach around.

Sounds like a job for Joe Biden

BlackOp 05-03-2020 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 14949866)
Yeap.

Dak is a big time player. He's not quite good enough

And that's where you get your franchise in trouble...you are financially hitching your wagon to a QB that isnt "quite good enough".

Stafford, Cousins, Rivers, Carr, Smith, Dalton ...none have done shit other than being almost good enough. Every year it then becomes...if only we had a star receiver or a better coordinator... if our defense could improve.

Then six years have gone by with the same result...Cowboys went 8-8 last season and the division was crap.

oldman 05-03-2020 09:00 AM

I'm not sure that it's anything beyond signing a vet QB for a backup. The deal is for 1 year and only $3M is guaranteed. Dak isn't the answer in Dallas and I certainly wouldn't give him $40M per, but I'll bet both he and his agent aren't losing much sleep.

Bob Dole 05-03-2020 09:23 AM

NFL rules state when you subtract a ginger, you have to add a ginger.

KCJake 05-03-2020 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 14949850)
No, it really isn't. Dak is a legit starting qb. Not top 5 but easily top 10. Dalton is a borderline starter at best. He went to the free agent market and got a backup contract. That tells you everything you need to know.

In a shit division the Cowboys went 8-8 last season. How much better or worse would the Cowboys have been with Dalton at QB?

chiefforlife 05-03-2020 10:21 AM

Look, Dak had ALL the leverage before this signing. It was smart for the Cowboys to get a very competent back up. They can play without Dak now and it puts at least some leverage back on their side.
Yes Dak is better than Dalton but he isnt worth more than Russell Wilson. Dallas is LOADED with weapons, offensive line and defense. Dak couldnt be in a better position to succeed. You want to be a world champion or hold out for a few more million? Your move Dak!

Dallas played this well, finally.

chiefforlife 05-03-2020 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 14949850)
He went to the free agent market and got a backup contract. That tells you everything you need to know.

To be fair, he was cut long after Free agency and the draft. Starting QB positions were all filled. There was no opening for a true starter except Dallas (if Dak doesnt sign) I would argue he landed in the perfect spot given what was out there.

No, I am not saying he is better than Dak.

Chris Meck 05-03-2020 10:32 AM

In my opinion, the reason the Cowboys have underachieved is because of a severe lack of discipline.

I mean, watching a few games I was just struck by how they SHOULD be a really good team, but they just have zero discipline on either side of the ball. Shitty tackling, No gap integrity, blown coverages, and on offense, just a lackadaisical-ness that was head scratching. Dropped balls, half-assed routes, not finishing blocks. Also, poor conditioning it appeared. They particularly looked like shit in 4th quarters.

That's all on Garrett.

If McCarthy just installs some discipline I think they're back in the hunt as contenders.

Dak is better than Dalton, but he too is undisciplined. You might literally get better results from Dalton because of that. No, he's not nearly as talented.

ToxSocks 05-03-2020 11:31 AM

It's a great move for any team, really. He's probably the best QB insurance policy in the league. I would've loved to have had him. This coaching staff and team can win enough games with Andy Dalton to sneak into the playoffs if Mahomes were injured for a month or two.

FloridaMan88 05-03-2020 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Eleazar (Post 14949637)
I’d rather have Dalton three times as much as Winston

I’d rather have Jameis Winston on a significantly cheaper contract.

oldman 05-03-2020 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 14950230)
In my opinion, the reason the Cowboys have underachieved is because of a severe lack of discipline.

I mean, watching a few games I was just struck by how they SHOULD be a really good team, but they just have zero discipline on either side of the ball. Shitty tackling, No gap integrity, blown coverages, and on offense, just a lackadaisical-ness that was head scratching. Dropped balls, half-assed routes, not finishing blocks. Also, poor conditioning it appeared. They particularly looked like shit in 4th quarters.

Nailed it, Chris. With all the talent they had on both sides of the ball, they should have been better.


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