To be fair, Dorsey didn't want to re-sign Berry which was one of the worst contracts and decisions by the Chiefs maybe ever.

:LOL:

Chiefs look to keep winning games, return to Championship Game

He's the one that wanted to keep Justin Houston, which ended up nearly as bad.

The point is that nobody is faultless. Dorsey isn't some genius and Veach isn't just some slouch either.

They both have had their successes and their failures. One of them however has been to two Super Bowls and the other has been fired twice in just about the same amount of time.

It's almost like it's really ****ing hard to build and keep teams together and there's so much shit out of your control.

Get the QB and the coach right, plug along.

Getting those positions at where we'll be drafting aren't easy. Will have to develop them from lower rounders likely.

We've got the coaching staff for it, thankfully.

CB is overvalued in these parts (myself included). The Chiefs have dominated the league for years now with not much there.

Front 7 is where it's at.

Only a reerun would have not resigned Houston

Both players had great talent.

If Ford wasn't injury prone he goes down as a great pass rusher.

Marcus Peter is doing ok in Baltimore. He either needed different coaches or to just grow up.

both players were worth the risk

Whenever Veach takes a risk everyone cheers and talks about what a big set a balls he has. Since Dorsey is no longer a Chief, people trash him.

It's a KC thing, once you leave you are a worthless POS

Andy Reid was wrong to kick Dorsey out of town. We need more than one person running the team. Now Reid runs everything and it shows.

Yeah, it shows. Damn those...checks notes....back to back SB appearances.

There was no reason to give him that kind of contract structure at all.

Ford was injured BEFORE he was ever drafted. More than once, and one of them was his back.

Worth the risk? ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL

That's just the thing. I'm not TRASHING Dorsey. I'm also not going to bow down and kiss his feet. He has his own issues, particularly with working as a team and ceding power. That's why he's been FIRED twice in the last 3 years.

You know there is a middle ground between a shit GM and a great GM and right now, it's occupied by BOTH Veach and Dorsey, right?

It's a KC thing, once you leave you are a worthless POS

The inability for CP to see anything other than black and white is always amazing to me.

He had like 21 sacks in 14 his contract wasnt the issue he was going to get paid. Its nobody's fault his leg nearly snapped in half on a freak play.

I'm not giving Veach or Dorsey more credit for the Super Bowls, they deserve equal justification there. It certainly isn't a testament to Veach nor is it a knock on Dorsey. They brought in talent in different ways and it achieved the ultimate result as a whole.

Like was said, it would have taken an idiot not to re-sign Justin Houston. Injuries were the demise of the deal, but he did ultimately return to form and has been quite good in Indy. Berry was an issue before the ink was put to paper and it became worse. That's the difference for me regarding those deals.

They both have faults, varying to different degrees in the eyes of the beholder.

Anyone know what Mathieu is griping about on Twitter?
He’s pissed over something..

I’d be interested to see what everyone’s tune on Veach would be if Shanny didn’t have cell service the night Trent Williams was deciding his fate. By all reports, Trent Williams pulled just short of an Emmanuel Sanders on KC. If that domino falls our way who knows how the rest of the offseason goes and essentially shapes Veach’s reputation. The guy did the work on his end, it just didn’t work out.

I’m excited to see what else he has up his sleeve though because he’s never been one for timidness, and could see him getting antsy after losing out on FA coming off a SB embarrassment. If there’s one thing Veach has displayed throughout his tenure it’s his aggressiveness, if there’s a player he likes that drops I think there’s going to be movement.