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htismaqe 12-17-2021 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 16017208)
And on the other side, most of us would have felt a little relief if they'd just kicked it in most of those situations. That's a pretty good indicator that we know deep down that going for it is the best option.

Good point.

Deberg_1990 12-17-2021 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 16017215)
They've gone for it on 4th down 26 times this year. It's just what they do. We just gave them enough short ones that the numbers said to go a lot.

And it’s gotten them 8-6. Someone should do an analysis to see if just playing straight up football without all the analytics would have gotten them More wins or about the same.

wachashi 12-17-2021 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 16017225)
And it’s gotten them 8-6. Someone should do an analysis to see if just playing straight up football without all the analytics would have gotten them More wins or about the same.

LOL

HemiEd 12-17-2021 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 16017032)
Agreed. He’s one of these young guys that thinks he’s smarter than the game. I think he also made a mistake losing a TO trying to get a Kelce catch overturned.

I hope they keep him as their coach for a long time. The wise coach went home with a W last night.

OnTheWarpath15 12-17-2021 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16017072)
The one before halftime, ok. Maybe.

The others were the same way the Chiefs should play with Mahomes so I commend it. They've got a legit ass QB. Put the ball in his hands and live with the consequences.

Exactly right.

Decisions were fine. Had players executed (Williams and Cook both dropped TD's in separate goal-to-go situations) no one would be having this conversation.

htismaqe 12-17-2021 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 16017244)
Exactly right.

Decisions were fine. Had players executed (Williams and Cook both dropped TD's in separate goal-to-go situations) no one would be having this conversation.

Honestly, the play where Parham got injured was a pure drop. The defender didn't really affect the play, the ground did.

Old Dog 12-17-2021 09:14 AM

It's been said for a few years now that you aren't going to beat the Chiefs with 3's. Other than the one right before the half that would have put them up seven I think he made the correct calls on the 4th down decisions. The challenge on the Kelce catch is iffy, but it looked to me that they were going to have to take a timeout there anyway on defense and they still had two challenges left so I didn't think that was an egregious mistake either.

RealSNR 12-17-2021 09:17 AM

Asshole had never coached at any level bigger than Div 3 until 4 years ago.

People are waaaaay too quick to crown this guy’s ass as a boy genius.

He might be a fine coach and will probably last longer than his predecessors, but let’s just cool it

St. Patty's Fire 12-17-2021 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Cave Johnson (Post 16017026)
Where is the DeBerg sub forum, mods??

This is a rare decent thread by Deberg, the discussion around Staley is interesting, don’t discourage him when he’s improving!

OnTheWarpath15 12-17-2021 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16017247)
Honestly, the play where Parham got injured was a pure drop. The defender didn't really affect the play, the ground did.

Same with the Williams drop the play or two before. Right through his hands.

wachashi 12-17-2021 09:26 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The weird thing about the Chargers discourse is that Staley is *not* a coach who blindly follows the models- he&#39;s kicked plenty of times when models would say to go.<br><br>But last night he, in addition to every public model I&#39;ve seen, *all* thought it was right to go for it each time</p>&mdash; Computer Cowboy (@benbbaldwin) <a href="https://twitter.com/benbbaldwin/status/1471829743565742080?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 17, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

RealSNR 12-17-2021 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by wachashi (Post 16017290)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The weird thing about the Chargers discourse is that Staley is *not* a coach who blindly follows the models- he&#39;s kicked plenty of times when models would say to go.<br><br>But last night he, in addition to every public model I&#39;ve seen, *all* thought it was right to go for it each time</p>&mdash; Computer Cowboy (@benbbaldwin) <a href="https://twitter.com/benbbaldwin/status/1471829743565742080?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 17, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Translation: It's not about analytics or math with him. He was just scared.

Gary Cooper 12-17-2021 09:40 AM

Another young punk who thinks he's smarter than everyone despite not hitting puberty yet.

I agree coaches aren't aggressive enough, but when your team doesn't have it, you need to settle for the points. He should have got the message after the first one or two 4th down failures.

ChiTown 12-17-2021 09:45 AM

IDGAF what the analytics say. You kick that FG before half. You can't keep throwing up zero's that deep into Chief's territory. Getting points before having to kick off to the Chiefs to start the 3rd Qtr was a must have. Like I said, stuff your analytics up your ass. You take the points there.

Here Staley, you earned this
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RedinTexas 12-17-2021 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Old Dog (Post 16017254)
It's been said for a few years now that you aren't going to beat the Chiefs with 3's. Other than the one right before the half that would have put them up seven I think he made the correct calls on the 4th down decisions. The challenge on the Kelce catch is iffy, but it looked to me that they were going to have to take a timeout there anyway on defense and they still had two challenges left so I didn't think that was an egregious mistake either.

Yes, they've been saying for a few years that you have to score early and often to beat the Chiefs, but they've been saying that as the 2018, 2019, and 2020 Chiefs put up huge point totals. The 2021 Chiefs have been "struggling" on offense. Making the decision to go for it on 4th down was probably the right thing to do if the situation had come up in prior years, but I'm not sure about it this year.


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