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Coogs 02-11-2022 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16139868)
Just keep in mind that tagging him also simply gives them more time to get a deal done. The Chiefs have done it in the past - Will Shields comes to mind.

I agree with the tag. I still would give him the option to negotiate with other teams, with the trade option. See what pans out. If we sign him back. It's a win. If another team offers us an unbelievable draft pick in return, it's a win.

oldman 02-11-2022 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by dallaschiefsfan (Post 16139364)
Worst case, the tag buys you another year to see if you REALLY want to sign him. If he costs more next year, it's because he's worth it. Not a fan of just giving out a mega contract until we know that he's truly the long-term solution. I'd like to see if he improves in pass blocking with another off-season in our program.

I'm of the same opinion. Last year was the 1st year he'd played LT on a regular basis and he was just a little above OK in my book. I'm willing to give him a chance, but at this point, $20-22M is out. Just because you want to play LT doesn't mean you should get LT top dollar. I want to play PMII money QB in the NFL, but I don't think that's going to happen.

The Franchise 02-11-2022 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 16139891)
I agree with the tag. I still would give him the option to negotiate with other teams, with the trade option. See what pans out. If we sign him back. It's a win. If another team offers us an unbelievable draft pick in return, it's a win.

Except now we’re back to needing a LT again.

Coogs 02-11-2022 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16139970)
Except now we’re back to needing a LT again.

Thuney was not bad out there in his one appearance vs the Bengals.

Again, I am fine with Brown. But I am also fine with exploring options and weighing the +/- of what turns out best for the long term of the team.

If Brown would net us a pick in the 10-20 range in the draft, the +/- could be interesting.

htismaqe 02-11-2022 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 16140090)
Thuney was not bad out there in his one appearance vs the Bengals.

Again, I am fine with Brown. But I am also fine with exploring options and weighing the +/- of what turns out best for the long term of the team.

If Brown would net us a pick in the 10-20 range in the draft, the +/- could be interesting.

You're not getting a mid-first rounder for him. If they tag him, it's to control him or work out a deal later this offseason. Nobody is going to want to give up the picks to get him at this point.

As far as Thuney, you don't want to get into that. He's an all-pro guard, you don't **** with that.

Coogs 02-11-2022 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16140094)
You're not getting a mid-first rounder for him. If they tag him, it's to control him or work out a deal later this offseason. Nobody is going to want to give up the picks to get him at this point.

As far as Thuney, you don't want to get into that. He's an all-pro guard, you don't **** with that.

We also didn't have Humphrey and Smith when we signed Thuney.

And who is to say we couldn't get a high pick for Brown? Philly has 3 picks in that range.

Chief Roundup 02-11-2022 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16139864)
We absolutely do.

Please explain, as of now we only have a little more than $4 million in cap space.

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htismaqe 02-11-2022 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 16140160)
Please explain, as of now we only have a little more than $4 million in cap space.

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The tag doesn't actually affect the cap until after the league season starts and you have time to get under the cap after the league season starts.

Basically, they tag him, re-sign/re-structure other players, get under the cap, and then move forward.

oldman 02-11-2022 12:18 PM

You can't trade Brown because he's not under contract.

htismaqe 02-11-2022 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by oldman (Post 16140232)
You can't trade Brown because he's not under contract.

If they tag him, they can trade him once the league year starts.

scho63 02-11-2022 12:27 PM

Anyone thinking of letting Brown go needs their head examined

penguinz 02-11-2022 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16139868)
Just keep in mind that tagging him also simply gives them more time to get a deal done. The Chiefs have done it in the past - Will Shields comes to mind.

Didn't they do it with Jones just a couple of years ago?

Shaid 02-11-2022 12:44 PM

They also did the Jared Allen tag and trade. I guess we'll see where it goes. I'd probably do like a 3 year deal and try to find better/equivalent in the next couple drafts.

htismaqe 02-11-2022 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaid (Post 16140264)
They also did the Jared Allen tag and trade. I guess we'll see where it goes. I'd probably do like a 3 year deal and try to find better/equivalent in the next couple drafts.

With Mahomes at QB, getting a better LT in the draft isn't likely to happen. Good left tackles generally go in the top half of the first.

We won't ever be picking high enough, barring some nightmare scenario that involves Mahomes, and quite frankly if that happens, we won't be worried about LT at all.

htismaqe 02-11-2022 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 16140254)
Didn't they do it with Jones just a couple of years ago?

Did they end up tagging Jones or just threaten to use it? I can't find much about the history of the franchise tag unfortunately.


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