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DJ's left nut 03-04-2022 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by jdubya (Post 16174743)
He shows up for some games and then takes several games off. I watched him closely when he was a Raider and he has all the tools but often just looks disinterested. Is this a trend that he plays for a couple of seasons and then checks out? As a Raider fan I had much higher hopes for him but certainly wasn't heartbroken when he left.

He's also the guy that really turned the Cowboys offense around when they acquired him.

Let's face it - consistency is nice, but with Hill and Kelce on the field, it isn't vital. And do you think he's a guy who's going to check out in the post-season when we really need him?

But I think it's all moot because I'm just not willing to make the financials work with him.

Steron 03-04-2022 11:05 AM

Who gets a bigger contract? Amari Cooper or Allen Robinson?

htismaqe 03-04-2022 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16174801)
More or less expensive than our left tackle?

OBJ is going to get over $20M per and he's worth it.

Cooper isn't going to get that much but he's likely to get close to Tyreek money (assuming Tyreek gets a new contract soon) and that's not doable considering all the other needs we have.

Shoes 03-04-2022 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16174709)
I don't really get the 'bum' talk.

You can pretty much write him down for 15 games and 1,000 yards. He has that one season in Oakland where he just vapor locked and dropped everything thrown his way. Then last year they were really trying to spread the ball around with Cooper, Lamb, Schultz and Gallup/Wilson in the Y getting over 100 targets. Pollard/Elliott got 100 targets as well.

I mean would any of us really turn up our noses at a 70% catch rate and 70 receptions for 900 yards out of our #2 receiver? What the hell are you looking for if not THAT guy?

Cooper would be very nice fit here. He's a great route runner, gets strong separation, is willing to be physical and can run after the catch. He's not Lou Gehrig out there but he IS usually healthy.

He checks a TON of boxes. I think too many Chiefs fans are just conditioned to shit on anything Raider (and Cowboy, for that matter) so they're not giving him his due credit.

My thoughts exactly- he is a better version of what Sammy Watkins brought to this team.

lawrenceRaider 03-04-2022 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16174803)
He's also the guy that really turned the Cowboys offense around when they acquired him.

Let's face it - consistency is nice, but with Hill and Kelce on the field, it isn't vital. And do you think he's a guy who's going to check out in the post-season when we really need him?

But I think it's all moot because I'm just not willing to make the financials work with him.

Yes. He's a heartless pussy. Only really shows up against bad teams. Have a close look at his game logs.

BleedingRed 03-04-2022 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Shoes (Post 16174811)
My thoughts exactly- he is a better version of what Sammy Watkins brought to this team.

Much better when you factor in health and mental toughness. He is by all accounts a great locker room guy to.

BleedingRed 03-04-2022 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 16174815)
Yes. He's a heartless pussy. Only really shows up against bad teams. Have a close look at his game logs.

Check his green bag game first year in Dallas and get back to me, or Rams year before last.

Again this is with Dak throwing to him. His route running is amazing and going over the middle is ok with him. He is a perfect compliment to Hill

The Franchise 03-04-2022 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 16174819)
Check his green bag game first year in Dallas and get back to me, or Rams year before last.

Again this is with Dak throwing to him. His route running is amazing and going over the middle is ok with him. He is a perfect compliment to Hill

Or Week 1 against the Bucs this last season.

Raiders fans are just pissed that he didn't work out for them.

DJ's left nut 03-04-2022 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 16174815)
Yes. He's a heartless pussy. Only really shows up against bad teams. Have a close look at his game logs.

In his 3 playoff games in Dallas he's gone for 19 catches for 235 yards and 2 scores on 28 targets.

Pro-rate it over 16 games (it's just more intuitive than 17) and you're looking at a 1,250 yard receiver on at 68% catch rate w/ 11 touchdowns.

Yeah - real piece of shit, that guy.

htismaqe 03-04-2022 11:14 AM

I watch quite a bit of Cowboys football (thank to my late FIL) and Cooper is fearless. The guy has no problems operating in traffic and making tough catches.

He'd be nails in this offense, opposite Hill. I just don't think it's worth the amount of money he'll likely command.

BWillie 03-04-2022 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16174808)
OBJ is going to get over $20M per and he's worth it.

Cooper isn't going to get that much but he's likely to get close to Tyreek money (assuming Tyreek gets a new contract soon) and that's not doable considering all the other needs we have.

Then you sign the WR. I know this shit. I was really good at Madden 08. Trust me. I took the Mexico City Flying Squirrels to back-to-back-to-back-to-back-back Super Bowls on intermediate mode.

htismaqe 03-04-2022 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16174829)
Then you sign the WR. I know this shit. I was really good at Madden 08. Trust me. I took the Mexico City Flying Squirrels to back-to-back-to-back-to-back-back Super Bowls on intermediate mode.

So you're suggesting that we let OBJ walk and sign Cooper with that money?

DJ's left nut 03-04-2022 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16174829)
Then you sign the WR. I know this shit. I was really good at Madden 08. Trust me. I took the Mexico City Flying Squirrels to back-to-back-to-back-to-back-back Super Bowls on intermediate mode.

Anybody that didn't move their team to the cash machine that was Mexico City just wasn't doing it right.

Mexico City was a goldmine.

tredadda 03-04-2022 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16174732)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Would you? Amari Cooper 3y/$58.5m (has $6m remaining from Dallas), $9m signing bonus, $38.5m guaranteed.<br><br>Cap hits of <br>2022: $11m<br>2023: $23m<br>2024: $24.5m(potential out; $17m savings if cut)<br><br>$19.5m AAV, teachable incentives up to $21.5m AAV. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a></p>&mdash; Arrowhead Live (@ArrowheadLive) <a href="https://twitter.com/ArrowheadLive/status/1499778987593191425?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 4, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Not sure he is worth $23 or $24 million.

BleedingRed 03-04-2022 11:19 AM

Out of all the WRs out there he would be by far the best fit


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